hecho de Mexico??!!

[KellyClark]

To Grizzly, I was just about to add the fact that my initial post was edited after you had already posted a reply. While I still don't agree with your comment, I can understand since I'm probably from a different generation than you.



Does anyone else think it is important to at least be conscious of where the products you are buying are manufactured? Every item I pick up, clothing, tools, you name it, I ALWAYS look to see where it was made. I never said I think foreign products are substandard, I just prefer ones made here, if given a choice.



Where is the 48RE made, and by whom? Is it a Chrysler product?



Thanks for all the great answers so far. I learned from the FTE forum that some PowerStrokes are made in a plant in Brazil.

 

[JRG]

Does anyone else think it is important to at least be conscious of where the products you are buying are manufactured?

I think that it just does you an injustice in todays market. Just because something is made somewhere else doesn't mean it is not better, that would be like saying Earth has the only life in the universe. We should try to not be so closed-minded.



The guy in Indonesia is just trying to put food on the table for his kids too. At some point the global market will even out and the BEST product produced will get the recognition. That will be the product most sought after, no matter WHO made it.



If we (USA) keep our eye-on-the-prize and put out the best product possible, people will buy. If we put out a half arsed product, well anybody can build that and probably cheeper too.



just a thought.



JRG

 

[Grizzly]

To Grizzly, I was just about to add the fact that my initial post was edited after you had already posted a reply. While I still don't agree with your comment, I can understand since I'm probably from a different generation than you.





It's not so much what you said as how you said it. Your words were not kind to our Mexican neighbors, and I too would rather see them working and living in Mexico, building our Dodge trucks. than crossing our borders illegally. Then you said something about the [edited out] instead of Duramax. That one I took quite personal, because I served 18 months in Japan while in the military and I have great respect for the Japanese people and their cultural. I saw it over and over where some of us whites just don't respect anyone other then ourselves. It is not surprising to me to see why so many foreigners hate us. We simply don't always treat them right and have no respect for them.

When it come to the rights and respect of "other" people, I'll get on my soap box and take a stand every time.

 

[Patriot Blue Megacab]

LOL you all make me laugh. Im not even sure how to respond to this,but feel I have too,besides everyone else seems to have added there 2cents worth.

Kelly I can respect you wanting to buy American,and I thank you!

Grizzly I respect you for serving,being some of the same places I have.

Kelly try try as you might,buy all the American you can(i know you understnad not everything is going to be)

Grizzly,keep suporting the U. S. (as we all should)

As I sit here in S. Korea,drinking korean beer,dreaming of my Mexican built truck(which im sure will be great),trying to figure out where my American pass port is so I can take vacation to come back to all this B. S.

Everyone needs to get off there soap box and get over it. Its a world market,there is no more American only product. Give Kelly the info he asked for,dont turn this into anything political or racist,I dont think it was ment to do that to start with.

And for those that want to rant,rave and cuss pls dont waste your time posting,just send a personal message. lol

 

[BRayls]

48re , Kokomo Indiana's KTP ,yes it is D-C. I am an over-paid UAW worker ,whom will have to work 38 years of 54 hours a week to make what the leader in our plant made last year, but I am overpaid and it is the unions fault :-laf .

 

[Parks]

You guys are killing me. :-{} I am glad that some of you are not taking this serious because I do not believe that anyone here on this thread that has posted meant anything racist, or fascist. Reading it at first I can see why it was a little harsh but come on. Lets be gentlemen here. I have gotten tired of editing post that were off topic. Some of the info posted was really good and some of the info was really funny. But if you keep up the name calling and bickering I will have to close the thread. I hope that is clear enough.



Oh yeah, I hope you find your pass port Patriot Blue Megacab. That would not be good losing it in S. Korea.

 

[832]

Oh yeah the tooling that welds the body together and the automation processes were all built in the USA. I know because I personally worked on the lines and followed it for the install. Also a majority of the parts are shipped over the border from the USA to the assembly plant in Saltillo. Also to concur with Tommygun they are starting to build a signifigant amount of CTD's in ST. Louis due to the increased demand for the trucks.

 

[BRayls]

You guys are killing me. :-{} I am glad that some of you are not taking this serious because I do not believe that anyone here on this thread that has posted meant anything racist, or fascist. Reading it at first I can see why it was a little harsh but come on. Lets be gentlemen here. I have gotten tired of editing post that were off topic. Some of the info posted was really good and some of the info was really funny. But if you keep up the name calling and bickering I will have to close the thread. I hope that is clear enough.



Oh yeah, I hope you find your pass port Patriot Blue Megacab. That would not be good losing it in S. Korea.

sorry I should have stayed on topic. but I could not resist the fun

 

[MerkelG]

Hecho De Mexico

Just picked up my 06. Made in USA. Paint scratched on the top of the cab. Drivers door misalignad and making noise. Rear ubolt on axel misaligned two inches. Vibration between 65 and 70. Poor paint. My 92 -96- 02 trucks made in Mexico were great. Merkel G.

 

[CDonaldson]

MerkelG - when I bought my truck there were 2 available with all the options I wanted. One was the exact color I wanted too. There they were sitting side by side, a sight to behold. So, I started looking over the one that fit my bill to a T, sounds like yours - had all kinds of quality control errors that you are taklking about plus it was missing a few hose clamps under the hood, radiator fins with lots of flat spots/dents, etc. I moved over to check out the other truck. Clean as a whistle, I could not find anything out of place, quality workmanship bumper to bumper, the color-atlantic blue 2-tone with silver on the bottom, a little warmer a color for living on the desert but that's what a/c is for - I bought it. The first truck was assembled in the US, mine was assembled in Mexico.



I just put my first dent on my truck today. Got the rear bumper but good on something that should have given instead of the bumper, it is a little flimsy/thin gauge for a bumper in my estimation. Time to go for the one to match the front one, but then that's what the aftermarket is for - getting better hang-on's. The reason I did not buy the 'ideal' first truck with everything down to the paint that I was looking for is a simple one - not an aftermarket to fix all the stuff that should have been right out of the factory. I'm not saying that all of the trucks out of the US are screwed up, just the one I looked at. I know that the dealer expects us to show up with our 'fix-it lists' and that's OK if you have the time for that sort of thing - I don't, and I would rather have that whole day (or more) to drive my truck.



CD

 

[jsimpson]

My 3500 was made in Mexico. My wife's Tundra was made in America and it's engine is nbuilt in Alabama. Which of us is driving a foreign car? Most imports I see on he road have American flag stickers onn them somewhere or another, as though they're trying to make up for something! Ain't it a great world we live in? And here I sit, on my American made couch, typing on my Chinese made American computer in my American-built house cooled by a Korean built American air conditioner. Uh oh; almost time for my appointment with my Vietnamese doctor! Better jump on my Ukranian-built hack with it's Japanese electronics, and Italian controls and compete with the Hispanic majority on my roads!

 

[jsimpson]

I bought nothing but Japanese cars for nearly tenty years when American products started losing the quality race in the seventies. I'm buying American vehicles again now because I'm getting more for my money with American products now (even if some have Japanese brand names). I remember well when everything in stores was American. I bought my first microwave oven in 1969 for $500, a months salary. Now I can get one at Target for $39, two hours salary for a teacher with 30 years on the job. I don't believe for a minute that anyone on this board would be willing to buy ALL AMERICAN. You'd have no TV, no cell phone, no microwave. These days it's because America doesn't manufacture those things. When I was a young adult, it was because no one my age could AFFORD those American made things. It's a world economy now: live with it, or become an HONEST protest movement and do without all the things the world economy affords you.

I think that it just does you an injustice in todays market. Just because something is made somewhere else doesn't mean it is not better, that would be like saying Earth has the only life in the universe. We should try to not be so closed-minded.



The guy in Indonesia is just trying to put food on the table for his kids too. At some point the global market will even out and the BEST product produced will get the recognition. That will be the product most sought after, no matter WHO made it.



If we (USA) keep our eye-on-the-prize and put out the best product possible, people will buy. If we put out a half arsed product, well anybody can build that and probably cheeper too.



just a thought.



JRG

 

[Big MAK]

One of the biggest mistake I made was trying to buy American cars the last 20 years Note cars not trucks -- my CTDs have been great. Problem after problem after problem with American cars... have finally gone back to Hondas. No problems; at all. The Honda we bought 2 years ago we'll have 10 years minimum -- then give to to my yougest son to run the wheels off for another 10.



I know we should support America and all that. . but I simply can't afford it. Over 20 years thats about $200,000 wasted plus the lost dollars that could have been made on investments. Decided to start saving my money and buying Honda.



American quality? PLEASE. I'm an avid fan of CTD or I'd be driving a Toyota in a second. On our Honda service = Stellar. Dodge service = Dodge has service? what's that? That's part of the biggest problem. I'd deal with some quality glitches if American companies had even half-*** service.



As pro-American as I am it saddens me to be kicked out of American autos due to poor quality and poor service.

 

[ohnoitsyu]

One of the biggest mistake I made was trying to buy American cars the last 20 years Note cars not trucks -- my CTDs have been great. Problem after problem after problem with American cars... have finally gone back to Hondas. No problems; at all. The Honda we bought 2 years ago we'll have 10 years minimum -- then give to to my yougest son to run the wheels off for another 10.



I know we should support America and all that. . but I simply can't afford it. Over 20 years thats about $200,000 wasted plus the lost dollars that could have been made on investments. Decided to start saving my money and buying Honda.



American quality? PLEASE. I'm an avid fan of CTD or I'd be driving a Toyota in a second. On our Honda service = Stellar. Dodge service = Dodge has service? what's that? That's part of the biggest problem. I'd deal with some quality glitches if American companies had even half-*** service.



As pro-American as I am it saddens me to be kicked out of American autos due to poor quality and poor service.

Agreed 100%.

And considering many Hondas are built here in the US, they are employing US citizens.



Cummins better be worried if Honda or Toyota gets into this market with a full-sized turbo diesel. At least maybe we'd see good mileage.



Dodge service is an oxymoron. And if any of you have compared the quality and usability of service manuals between Dodge and Honda, you'll see why Honda is better all around (I know the Honda service manuals are printed in the US as well).

 

[JACummins2500]

One of the biggest mistake I made was trying to buy American cars the last 20 years Note cars not trucks -- my CTDs have been great. Problem after problem after problem with American cars... have finally gone back to Hondas. No problems; at all. The Honda we bought 2 years ago we'll have 10 years minimum -- then give to to my yougest son to run the wheels off for another 10.



I know we should support America and all that. . but I simply can't afford it. Over 20 years thats about $200,000 wasted plus the lost dollars that could have been made on investments. Decided to start saving my money and buying Honda.



American quality? PLEASE. I'm an avid fan of CTD or I'd be driving a Toyota in a second. On our Honda service = Stellar. Dodge service = Dodge has service? what's that? That's part of the biggest problem. I'd deal with some quality glitches if American companies had even half-*** service.



As pro-American as I am it saddens me to be kicked out of American autos due to poor quality and poor service.

Funny, have you seen the poor press the new Avalon is getting? Big article in Autonews this week. None of this has made the popular press yet. 11 TSB's out on the car already. Add to this the fact that the new Camry has a transmission issue that is covered in a TSB. Toyota is not recalling it, and as such, you must wait until it fails for the fix.



Sounds like Toyota service is catching up!

 

[ohnoitsyu]

At least they produced a TSB for known problems. Dodge can't even figure out its problems, let alone produce TSBs for them. All manufactured vehicles are prone to problems, at least Toyota and Honda recognize them.

 

[MADDOG3]

You can buy Honda, Toyota, Subaru, Mazda, Nissan lots of others. They are all made in the USA. God forbid you should buy something made my Mexican. You might turn brown!

Some Cummins are made in Germany, others in Brazil, India, South Africa. The different components are made God knows where. Some components and engines are made in India, but I think those are for heavy duty marine application. Just do not buy the ones in Brazil. Those will also make you turn brown and give you an uncontrolable desire to dance the Samba



Regards,



MADDOG



Actually, now-a-days with free markets and globalization things are made in one country, assembled in another and sold in another.

 

[BRayls]

My 3500 was made in Mexico. My wife's Tundra was made in America and it's engine is nbuilt in Alabama. Which of us is driving a foreign car? Most imports I see on he road have American flag stickers onn them somewhere or another, as though they're trying to make up for something! Ain't it a great world we live in? And here I sit, on my American made couch, typing on my Chinese made American computer in my American-built house cooled by a Korean built American air conditioner. Uh oh; almost time for my appointment with my Vietnamese doctor! Better jump on my Ukranian-built hack with it's Japanese electronics, and Italian controls and compete with the Hispanic majority on my roads!

well hers is assmbled here, your was assembled there. where was the parts built? and by whom children? for all of you, I hope you sleep well at night knowing you saved a dollar by buying some sweatshop products. they are not passing the savings on to the consumers when they move to cheap labor . open your eyes, my old st . louis truck did not cost more than my mexico truck why? they were same years. american was loaded, mexico truck was not. think about what you are saying. a few years ago I ordered some home audio speakers from polk, they were american made. I got an e-mail saying I would have to wait as production was being moved for cost savings. I promptly responded asking if I was to see the savings and if so how much. needless to say I got no savings and they lost a sale. all they did was make some share holder happy for a few weeks/year. at the cost a several hundered american jobs. :-{}

 

[Parks]

Well I think this subject has been beat to death. And the "turning brown" comment from MADDOG3 just proves my point. So I am closing the thread. If you wish to continue the discussion, take it to the "other" forum or "politics" forum.



Thank you,

Brandon