help choosing a box

[Bunn]

I want to put a "box" on my 03 H. O. 6 speed but I'm not sure which way to go. The EZ, the bullydog, volumizer, etc. I see so many people using different things and talking about each I'm not sure what is best. The added HP is purely for my enjoyment and not for towing. Thanks for your help.

 

[JTeague]

To my knowledge the bullydog box is on top right now as far as power goes. If you are patient (I'm not) you may wait for the TST box to come out, they keep saying it will be out any day now . Its supposed to add 120hp/400ft/lbs. As for me I just ordered a Bullybox for my six speed truck. Several people have posted over 400 hp at the ground with all types of transmissions using the Bully Box. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Blakers]

I'm just gonna hang on for a while and watch everyone else. I think there are others in the works that will come out in the near future. I just want to see what works, what holds up, and what doesn't cause engine damage.

 

[krabman]

The TST and edge box are going to be timing and pulse width but not rail pressure making them stackable with a rail pressure box such as the ez. The TST is going to have 9 level on the fly adjustability and as of a few weeks ago when I spoke to Edge they were undecided on the number of levels but will be on the fly from the cab as well. Bully and Quad's new boxes are a combintation of rail pressure and timing (but not pulse width) and have 3 settings that can be adjusted from the cab. Stacking will get you the most options as far as adjustability to optimize to your truck and its mods. Personally at this point if you havent purchased yet then waiting might not be a bad idea. Both the edge and TST box are going to be out before long and then we will see where we stand with the timing and pulse boxes. Things are starting to get interesting for us 03 folks now.

 

[Swayse]

Don't know

I guess I'm gonna wait for the Edge box. Last week I was desperate to get the Bully Dog box, but I'm over it now. I would like to see some time slips from some 03 trucks with mods, but I guess I'm the one of the few 03 owners that like the strip. I went from a 18. 06 at 74 mph stock to 15. 9 at 84 mph with the EZ edge, about a 90 rwhp gain. I hear all about the Dyno numbers, and they are all over the board, depends on the dyno I guess. But I would love to see before and after dyno numbers, same day same dyno form a real customer.



I might get a remote start and install it my self, that should keep me busy untill I can get an edge box.

 

[CATCRACKER]

i talked with aaron from edge and he said possibly by the end of august edge will have thier boxs out. i will be interested to see how many ponies these trucks put out with a timing,pressure,pulse wow. way to many ponies for a stock transmission, that i am sure of. stack all that with dd3 and a b1b wow i would guess around 500+ easy

 

[DLeno]

The new edge box is timing and duration only (no pressure), and in the 100HP region. no additional stress on the HPCR system. The EZ is pressure only (no timing or duration) and in the 40-70 HP region. These two should be stackable -- how cool is that? .



another cool thing about the edge box is the new controller. in-cab adjustability, digital gauges, all in the same box. how cool is that?

 

[MUDDY]

im lovin my bullydog box



here be some dyno numbers,,b4 and aftr

Dyno Results For the Dog Days of Summer 2003

# Name Truck Mods/comments Run #1 Run #2 Run #3 Run #4

1 Jack Moore 2000 ford 250 7. 3L 150 hp chip,propane,detriot locker,DT torque converter, ATS Turbo 309Hp,567tq 422 hp, 777 tq 419 hp,715 tq

2 Larry Olson 2003 ford 6. 0L Bully dog chip, no speed limiter, RFI intake and exhaust. 463 hp, 723 tq

3 Lon Calhoun 1998 12 valve 370's, Hx35/16, Auto, 3KGSK, Scotty 2, 16. 2 timing 328 hp,649 tq 334 hp, 669 tq

4 Dee Rawson 1997 12 valve 370's PDR hx50 turbo, 4KGSk, scotty 2, 16. 5 timing 425hp, 681 tq 441 hp, 699 tq 459 hp, 750 tq 455hp, 739 tq

5 Steve Covalt 2001 24 valve cummins PDR Hx 50 turbo, DD pump, Don M. stage 5 injectors, Nitrous 440hp, 743 tq 484 hp, ? w/nitrous 508 hp, 788 tq w/nitrous 602 hp, 1031 tq

6 Travis Dickau 1996 12 valve cummins stock (tweaked by cummins) 305 hp, 617 tq 296 hp 612 tq

7 Chris sutton 1999 24 valve cummins Twin Turbos (B1), Drag Comp, DTT Auto, Bully dog step 8 injectors 543hp,1022 tq 539 hp, 1041 tq w/new injectors 602 hp, 1113 tq w/nitrous/bigger injectors 741hp, 1305 tq

8 Nathan Wright 2002 24 valve cummins Twins & more 621 hp, 1164 tq 617 hp,1153 tq

9 Kelly Brown 1994 6. 5L GMC 4" exhaust 228hp, 451 tq 241 hp, 464 tq

10 Justin Campbell 2000 24 valve cummins Diesel performance injectors, Edge box, std. output motor 421 hp,? 422 hp, 717 tq

11 Kris Taylor 1999 Corvette stock 336 hp, 337 tq 341 hp, 334 tq 341 hp, 344 tq 346 hp, 343 tq

12 Ryan Anderson 2003 Duramax Van Aakkan chip stacked w/edge, AFE intake, Banks Exhaust 429 hp, 775 tq 474 hp, 834 tq 487 hp, ?

13 Bad luck

14 Jeff Floyd 2000 ford 250 7. 3L Bully Dog 4-bank flip chip, 4" exhaust, Intake 382 hp, 740 tq 391 hp, 735 tq

15 Corey Cusak 1980 CJ-7 Gasser 251 hp, 307 tq

16 David Briggs 1977 CJ-7 Gasser (chewed up ps cooler)

17 Aaron Schaff 2003 24 valve cummins Toque Dog, RFI intake, RFI exhaust 448 hp, 773 tq 432 hp, 750 tq 439 hp, 767tq

18 Tom Wright 1998 12 Valve cummins stage 2 injectors, pump kit 274 hp, 617tq 263 hp, 572 tq

19 Rodney James 2002 ford 7. 3L unkown chip 358 hp, 623 tq 352 hp, 605 tq

20 Bully Dog 2003 ford 6. 0L Prototype chip, RFI intake, RFI exhaust, propane 433 hp, 686 tq w/propane 499 hp, 913 tq

21 Wes Rutger 2003 ford 7. 3L bully dog chip only 262 hp, 554 tq 393 hp, 745 tq 380 hp, 755 tq

22 Richard Madson 1995 ford with 12 valve cummins engine Twin Turbos (B1), Piers pump, piers cam, performance diesel injectors 738 hp, 1263 tq 697 hp, 1175 tq 793 hp, 1413 tq

23 Conan Feld 1979 firebird Gasser 290 hp, ? 293 hp, 392 tq

24 Harold Klassen 2002 ford f-150 Supercharged 5. 4L gasser 295 hp, 380 tq 293 hp, 378 tq

25 Doug Hofeldt 1998 12 valve 278 hp, 676 tq 288 hp, 696 tq 345 hp, 702 tq 314 hp, 594 tq

26 Bully Dog 2003 Duramax Chip, RFI intake, RFI Exhaust, Propane, Nitrous Chip only 443 hp, 857 tq w/propane 480 hp, 894 tq w/nitrous 523 hp, 893 tq

27 Lenny Reed 2002 24 valve cummins Hx40, Lenny's injectors, pusher pump, comp box, AFE intake, 4" exhaust 467 hp, 886 tq 462 hp, 869 tq

28 Mike Reed 1992 1st Gen cummins Intake, Exhaust, Hx40 turbo, pusher pump, Injectors, custom pump work 449 hp, 811 tq 450 hp, 811 tq



Winners Key

1st 2nd 3rd

Chevy class #12 Ryan Anderson # 9 Kelly Brown

Dodge class #5 Steve Covalt #27 Lenny Reed #4 Dee Rqwson

Ford Class #2 Larry Olsen #21 Wes Rutger #14 Jeff Floyd

Open Class #22 Richard Madson #8 Nathan Wright #7 Chris Sutton





Last edited by muddymess on 06-30-2003 at 12:17 PM





#17 had bullydog box as only fueling mod

 

[DLeno]

what turbo is # 17 using. are we talking 450 HP with just the BD box, intake and exhaust upgrades? :--)