Help me out with an air filter please

[Steve M]

Wasn't the filter in a 1st generation Dodge Cummins very similar to the BHAF and in a two piece can? Going from memory here...

 

[Reddog1]

illflem,



I have a lot of respect for your opinions. Please elaborate on why you think "a BHAF would be great in a steel canister like it's designed to be but if it's just laying in the engine compartment then a K&N in the airbox has to be much safer. "





Thanks



Wayne

 

[illflem]

Wayne, the cans the BHAF filters are usually installed in support the filter from both ends preventing the pleats from getting smashed, water from sogging them and direct heat from melting them. Anything short of a can is just tying the filter down or letting it bounce, sort of funky if you ask me. I know folks have gone a lot of miles with BHAFs and no problems. I've gone a lot of miles with my K&Ns with no problems and all I had to do was pop the box open, grease the seal and pop the box closed, service every 100k. Didn't have to build a mount or check/worry all the time about it becoming disconnected, soaked or melted. Whatever filter a person chooses to use they should be comfortable with, I'm comfortable with a K&N. Works for me.

 

[Reddog1]

Thanks Bill.



I had/have a K&N. I have mixed emotions with it. I too have a long dusty driveway.



After making engine mods, I found with my dusty driveway, it took very little time for the K&N to get enough dust to close the filter minder under full pedal.



I am trying the Fleetguard BHAF. I share your concerns on the vulnerability. If I like the BHAF, I will address its venerability.



I still haven't decided which way I will go.





Wayne

 

[JJW_ND]

BHAF is as safe as a K&N.

You will find more problems with the K&N in the stock box then you will with a BHAF. Not because the K&N is a poor filter, as Bill said it is much easier to allow dirt around it for over maintenance. Having ran a K&N and an Amsoil in the stock box for over 80K each, IMO the Amsoil is more forgiving with its sealing the the K&N. Both good filters.



My only experience with the BHAF is the Fleetguard AH19037. I have put on 20K. I read the tread on the failure and can not see how you could get it hot enough to melt. Something seems no normal. The fleetguards have a very hard neck that I doubt would collapse. Unless my 96 is different from the rest, this filter can not move when just resting fender. With a heat shield, you have four sides of a can just missing the ends. I do not offroad other then a little fall hunting and winter ice fishing. My engine stays very clean as does the BHAF.



Until I have a failure with the BHAF like I did with a K&N, I will keep running it.



Most Cummins techs would scream over a K&N. Bring the subject with Mark Chapple (TST) if you want an earful.



It is all about choices! Make em and move on!



jjw

ND

 

[rblomquist]

JJW-ND,



Did you place a reinforcement in the neck of the BHAF like that other thread suggests?



Just when I get sold on what I want to try someone else posts a negative



I still think the BHAF is a cool looking setup but now I'm worried about driving my rig in Vegas next summer when it's 115 outside and I'm stuck in a log jam on I-15 for 15-20 minutes every workday.

 

[RoryTek]

I have an Amsoil filter on my truck and it is way over due for a cleaning. Filter minder has never moved and no it's not stuck.

 

[moparguy]

rblomquist, I strongly recommend that all of the filters tagged as BHAFs run a stiffener in the neck. A lot of folks have been OK without one. However, the small percentage that have experianced the neck deforming when the stiffener is left out make a solid argument for it.



I'm running a piece of 4" muffler tubing about 1" long I rescued from a old exhaust system I removed from a friends truck.



On the underhood heat issue; cool air is better, no argument, but setting in traffic with a BHAF inplace, no matter how hot, is not generating dangerous EGT's since your not burning massive amounts of fuel. EGTs generally get out of hand when the pedal is on the floor and you're at the top end of 3rd or 4th making lots of rpm.



JJW-ND has a pretty good take on things, make a informed decision and go with it. My observations are what work for me.



Good luck, Ronnie

 

[rblomquist]

moparguy,



Thanks for your input. I was more worried about heat buildup under the hood deforming/melting the neck like was mentioned in one of those other threads. I see a lot of people using this kind of setup with great success (no problems) but I also look and see that most of them have S. Dakota, Alaska, Montana etc. in their signature profiles.



Rich