Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Help me, Please. I hate this transmission.

[BennyHL]

Ok, I got a free diagnostic done from Aamco cause my truck stopped shifting and it stays in first gear. I bought a governor pressure sensor and 3 gallons of atf and then decided I wasn't going to tackle it yet. I figured I'd need the solenoid too, but where do I get it??



Anyway the diagnostic from Aamco is that the rear seal is leaking into the tcase and tcase is leaking into the transmission or something like that. Whoohoo, whatever. And he mentioned something about replacing a speed sensor. I didn't think my 2000 used a speed sensor to work the transmission, or does it? How does this diagnostic sound to you?



Do I find the governor solenoid and dive into the transmission myself?

 

[BennyHL]

called back to ask for the diagnosis in writing and he tells me he's already put a "speed sensor" in it and it's shifting properly. . but i shouldn't drive it cause it might "burn up" cause of this transmission/tcase leaking problem. . sounds like he wants to keep my truck and do a buncha work on it for a lot of money.

 

[Joe Mc]

Call them back. Tell them do not perform any more "unauthorized" work. Pay them for what they've done and run as fast as you can.

I'm sure there are seals between the x-fer case and trans but I'd not let an Aamco work on my weed wacker. I'd be looking for another shop's opnion. Sorry if I've offended anyone that works with them but 21 years ago I had a $650 bad experience on an A-833 (4 spd) Chrysler. The shop's mode of operation was - get the car in tell the customer what they want to hear then don't call for a few days, when the customer calls there tell them you found all kinds of stuff bad. My problem (other than not knowing enought to 'not' take a std trans to a shop the specializes (ha) in auto trans, I had a bent 1-2 shift fork) was the trans would not go into 2nd gear. So first they call me on my ship and say it's the shifter, was a new Mr. Gasket V-Gate that I had put on months prior - I tell them BS and to take the shifter off and use an adjustable wrench to move the 1-2 shaft. They said they'd call me back. After not hearing from them in a day I call and get the "let me check with the Mechanic and get back to you", routine - nothing. When I call the next day - "oh, sorry we didn't get back to you - one of our mechanics stubbed his toe while he was walking to the coffee pot and was out back pulling his pud for the rest of the day" and "the mechanic says it needs new bearings and whole bunch of other stuff". I ask how much and get 2-300 - I say go fo it. I get a call to come pick up car 2 days later, I get there $650 bill!!! They will keep car if I don't pay and I authorized them to do any work required according to the form I signed when I dropped off the car. I asked to see all the old parts and was shown a 55 gal drum full of all kinds of parts from other trans. I was young, broke, dumb and needed my car, my ship was in the Deton Ship Builders Yard in Wando, SC, basically in the middle of nowhere - needed a car to survive. I had to get a slush fund loan ($10 for $20 next payday type deal) from a guy that worked for me - since he worked for me we worked out a relaxed work load + original 650 + 100 until I paid him off. Anyway the trans never did work right, it went into 2nd gear but not very smoothly.

Sorry for rambling - go somewhere else and anyone that reads this - be very wary of those advertised "transimssion tune-up specials" for $20, They overtighten the bands you pick it up and are told "we did the best we could but it doesn't look to good in there". So you drive off and it seems to shift really good much more firm than before!? Then if you are lucky it lasts a few weeks until it starts slipping because the bands are being burnt up. So who you go to? "those great guys that did such a wonderful job on my trans that (according to them) wasn't looking very good".

How do I really feel? very screwed after 21 years. Sorry - Focker out!!!#@$%!

 

[Regcabguy]

www.dieseltrans.com

Log on to these guys and give Stefan a call for an authorized installer in your area. Dave Goerand(sp?) has an excellent reputation too. Fix it once right and your done.

 

[Nate]

I'm friends with a guy that's starting a trans rebuild shop, has been doing them for a few years for extra $$.



He's told me before he loves Aamco because they bring him business :-laf





Yes there is a seal on the end of the trans... trans output seal. And also there's a T Case input seal. They are around $8 each at Napa. Easy to change, though you need to drop the T Case.

 

[BennyHL]

No way was I going to let them change any seals. He told me it shifted again, I said that's all I care about told him to leave it like it was and I'd pay him the $100. . Went right over and picked up my truck. . It does shift again so that's good. . However, they won't see my truck again. . I was in a bind and that's why I let them look at it. .



So does the 2000 truck have a speed sensor that the transmission used. . All I see is one electrical connection near the tailhousing and that's it. . Also if they're leaking a little fluid I don't care especially since the transmission and tcase both run on Mopar ATF. . lol. .



Anyway I got it back, it shifts and I'm back in the same boat as I have been with a dying transmission. I think what's really going is the lock up clutches in the TC cause that is the only time it will slip.



Aamco is not the place to go and he was trying to screw me out of a lot of money. I got screwed out of $100 and I'm not happy about that but it does shift again and that was the problem. . Not all this other phantom stuff he wanted to repair.



Thanks for the replies.

 

[Nate]

There should be an output speed sensor by the O/D housing, but I'm not 100% sure on your 2000. I know my 98 truck and Jeep both have them.

 

[zstroken]

2000 had speed sensor. Good luck finding an output seal for a DHD transfer case for $8.

Call Goerend and talk to him. I don't see a bad seal making it shift poorly, unless your running low on fluid.

 

[BennyHL]

There should be an output speed sensor by the O/D housing, but I'm not 100% sure on your 2000. I know my 98 truck and Jeep both have them.

There is a sensor there and it is plugged up and I can only assume right now it's a speed sensor. The Haynes manual doesn't mention this on my year model though. Doesn't mean it's not there I know. I'll look a little harder.

 

[BennyHL]

2000 had speed sensor. Good luck finding an output seal for a DHD transfer case for $8.

Call Goerend and talk to him. I don't see a bad seal making it shift poorly, unless your running low on fluid.

A bad seal isn't going to do anything and I know that. He just wanted my money and I didn't give it to him. Fluid level is good and has been changed w/ filter somewhat recently.

 

[Nate]

Trans output seal, T Case input seal.



Not sure on the DHD seal prices. My truck has a DLD T Case.

2000 had speed sensor. Good luck finding an output seal for a DHD transfer case for $8.

Call Goerend and talk to him. I don't see a bad seal making it shift poorly, unless your running low on fluid.

 

[tgee]

My 98 1/2, speed sensor is on the differential, not the trans or t-case.

 

[zstroken]

You have a sensor on the OD unit. All RE trans have them. It isn't the VSS. It is the transmission output speed sensor.

 

[BennyHL]

You have a sensor on the OD unit. All RE trans have them. It isn't the VSS. It is the transmission output speed sensor.

Thank you. . That puts 2 and 2 together. Wish I had've known this, I would've replaced it myself first thing. Make me cringe and tell me how much it costs if you know.

 

[BennyHL]

If anyone wants to buy the governor pressure sensor I bought I'd be glad to sell it. Got it for $85 at NAPA. Sell it for $75 shipped. I'd feel too bad returning it so I won't do that.

 

[TBurow]

there is no way tcase fluid can get ti the trans or vice versa, they both have seperate seals and there is a weep hole or inspection hole if you prefer between them so if it leaks it leaks on the ground, found that when i tried to get the "gasket" between them.

 

[BennyHL]

there is no way tcase fluid can get ti the trans or vice versa, they both have seperate seals and there is a weep hole or inspection hole if you prefer between them so if it leaks it leaks on the ground, found that when i tried to get the "gasket" between them.

Yea, isn't that a great way to make money off of people?

 

[Sick Boy]

Does Anyone Know What Size Socket U Need To Drain Transfer Case On A 2001?