HELP, over GVWR BY 400 lbs.

[SnoKing]

You must have a Large dirt bike hanging on the front bumper. Or did you back up a bit on the scale and leave it in reverse with your foot on the brake. Time to weigh again and forget about being over GVWR. Say under axle ratings and enjoy. Snoking

 

[dfb]

You must have a Large dirt bike hanging on the front bumper. Or did you back up a bit on the scale and leave it in reverse with your foot on the brake. Time to weigh again and forget about being over GVWR. Say under axle ratings and enjoy. Snoking

thanks sn
oking.... I wish I had a dirt bike.... do you think this is wrong... I did have my rear tires between two platforms... right on the middle of them both...

 

[SnoKing]

That would explain it. However when you get the correct front axle reading you will find that you are over 7K on the rear axle. Remember someone said the wheels are only rated to 3500 each. You maybe looking at 19.5" rims and tires or a dually. Snoking

 

[dfb]

And to think I had dibs on a 15 Laramie dually with bed liner, tinted windows and running boards out of state for 54000! I could just kick myself.... Ill get it reweighed again.... I asked the scale person if having my rear tires on both platforms would matter and he said no.... Tomorrow Ill take the truck to the dump scale... Thank you...

 

[SnoKing]

When that front reading goes down to 5100-5200 the rear will go up 500-600 and rear axle is going to be over weight by 200-300 lbs. Snoking

 

[SnoKing]

That trailer has a dry pin weight of 2905 and is most likely at 3500-3600 loaded. We walked out of a Montana dealer yesterday as only their two smallest trailers had light enough pin weight for our 3500 SRW.

More info. Your dry pin weight is 24%, so loaded to 16k GVWR you might be at 3800 pin weight. Wrong trailer or wrong truck.

We are looking at trailer with dry pin weight percentage of 18.8. So at 16k GVWR pin weight should be around 3K max. And I will pushing rear axle rating, with an almost 500 pound head start.

Snoking

 

[Cummins12V98]

Pretty sure the OP has a 5th wheel......he had a cab contact recently and broke his rear window and damaged the cab.
When you say "load levelers"....I *assume* you're referring to rear air bags.....and not a weight distributing setup?

Sorry wrong wording, I should have said weight distribution hitch. That is the only way he could have that much front axle weight.

 

[Cummins12V98]

My rule for figuring what RV your rig can tow is take your rear axle rating and subtract your actual rear axle weight with everything ready to tow. Full fuel, tool box, hitch misc and bodies.

Now take that number and multiply that by 4, that is the GVWR 5er you can tow based on a 25% pin weight. The last two 5er's I have owned have 25% pin. Full timing that is easy to do!

 

[SnoKing]

My rule for figuring what RV your rig can tow is take your rear axle rating and subtract your actual rear axle weight with everything ready to tow. Full fuel, tool box, hitch misc and bodies.

Now take that number and multiply that by 4, that is the GVWR 5er you can tow based on a 25% pin weight. The last two 5er's I have owned have 25% pin. Full timing that is easy to do!

Hello Houston the dfb has a problem. The new module has a 2905 dry weight, and when filled with supplies the attachment point is going to be overloaded. It is believed that we need to move to a higher altitude and lesson the effect of gravity!

We failed to measure the attachment points weight when ready for the new module and account for the weight of the module when filled with supplies. In fact I think one of the engineers did not even take into account the dry weight of the module, and the increase that was going to occur when supplies were loaded!

Preparing to fire thrusters!

Space Commander SNOKING

 

[dfb]

this is where I messed up. My 04 dodge dually had a gvwr of 12200.... The 2015 has a gvwr of 12300.. I did not think the 15 weighed nearly 1000 more .

 

[SnoKing]

this is where I messed up. My 04 dodge dually had a gvwr of 12200.... The 2015 has a gvwr of 12300.. I did not think the 15 weighed nearly 1000 more .

GVWR is not your big problem, the rear axle capacity is the issue with well over 3K pin weight(once you get correct CAT scale weights). GVWR is a manufacturers warranty or suggest rating, and not binding as long as you are licensed correctly in States that charge for tonnage like my state of Washington does. Given that I was right at 12K this winter, I will mostly likely up my licensed weight for 12 to 14K when I renew in the fall.

SNOKING

 

[cerberusiam]

Until you hit 8000 on the rear axle don't even worry. Get the heavier tires, if the fridge is in front of the axle store the food stuffs at the back until you arrive. It probably weighs more than the grill and hitch combined. As long you don't exceed axle and tire ratings it is solid.

 

[SnoKing]

Until you hit 8000 on the rear axle don't even worry. Get the heavier tires, if the fridge is in front of the axle store the food stuffs at the back until you arrive. It probably weighs more than the grill and hitch combined. As long you don't exceed axle and tire ratings it is solid.

Someone posted the the 18" wheels are only rated to 3500 each??? With 3:42 gears does one really want taller tires. Just what tire are you recommending? SNOKING

 

[Newsa]

Someone posted the the 18" wheels are only rated to 3500 each??? With 3:42 gears does one really want taller tires. Just what tire are you recommending? SNOKING

I have 3.42. Noticed a difference when going from 17 inch rims to 18 inch rims (pulling feel of available torque). Before buying the OEM 18 inch rims off ebay, I considered going with Rickson 19.5's. I don't blame someone for wanting Rickson's. But with 3.42's, I will not go that route.

I do like the chrome 18's though. They look good. And they give me a better cruising RPM on the highway for improved fuel economy.

 

[Newsa]

Double post.

 

[cerberusiam]

Someone posted the the 18" wheels are only rated to 3500 each??? With 3:42 gears does one really want taller tires. Just what tire are you recommending? SNOKING

Factory rates rims at 1/2 the axle rating. Based on the weight and construction compared to wheels that have a true rating they look to be good for 3800-4000 lbs.

I did not say taller tire I said heavier tire. A 295/65/18 is actually .1 inches shorter that the 275/70/18. It depends on the profile of the tire.

 

[SnoKing]

Factory rates rims at 1/2 the axle rating. Based on the weight and construction compared to wheels that have a true rating they look to be good for 3800-4000 lbs.

I did not say taller tire I said heavier tire. A 295/65/18 is actually .1 inches shorter that the 275/70/18. It depends on the profile of the tire.

So is this the only one available in that size?

WRANGLER DURATRAC

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Not much in that size for freeway queens!

 

[dfb]

Michelin makes a 295/70 18 rated at 4020

 

[cerberusiam]

Have no idea, OP said there was a tire in 295 that was rated for 4000 lbs so likely it was a 65 profile. Depends on who told him that and if they were correct. Tires rated a 4k per are in limited supply anyway but if you can get an AT likely can get an HT by order, or at least a less aggressive AT.

 

[dfb]

Have no idea, OP said there was a tire in 295 that was rated for 4000 lbs so likely it was a 65 profile. Depends on who told him that and if they were correct. Tires rated a 4k per are in limited supply anyway but if you can get an AT likely can get an HT by order, or at least a less aggressive AT.

Michelin defender LTX MS hi way tread in 295 70 18 rated at 4080...