High beams & Fog lights

[Dual3500s]

Is there a way to allow the fog lights to stay on while the high beam switch is activated? I would assume a jumper would work, just need to know where to place it.

 

[Hercules130]

check out the brite box with fog light control. www.britebox.com

 

[Hercules130]

ok that was a bad link, just do a search for the brite box and all your questions will be answered

 

[Dual3500s]

I do not want the brite box, I'd rather not blind people by running my low beams and his beams on all the time I simply want the fog lights to stay on when I put my high beams on. On my subaru I just had to run a jumper wire from one wire to another to accomplish this and was wondering on my 2003 HO what wires I need to do this.

Thanks for the advice on the brite box but I already researched that.



anyone that could help that would be great.

 

[DPKetchum]

If I'm not mistaken a JUMPER wire won't do it. Somewhere a while back a LONG thread about such.

 

[SRadke]

I do not want the brite box, I'd rather not blind people by running my low beams and his beams on all the time... .

What do you mean on all the time? With the bright box the low beams perform as normal. If you want your fog lights on, turn them on. If not leave them off. Either way the only diffrence is that when you turn your high beams on the fog lights will turn on with them (if they were off) or the fogs will stay on (if they were already on). Also the low beams will stay on with the high. The only time I use high beams is when there is no oncoming traffic so with the low beams functioning as normal, there is no blinding people.



-Scott

 

[CLAYTON]

I do not want the brite box, I'd rather not blind people by running my low beams and his beams on all the time I simply want the fog lights to stay on when I put my high beams on. On my subaru I just had to run a jumper wire from one wire to another to accomplish this and was wondering on my 2003 HO what wires I need to do this.

Thanks for the advice on the brite box but I already researched that.



anyone that could help that would be great.

The high beams don't stay on all the time only when you turn them on. Besides you wouldn't keep your high beams on while a car is coming. So your low beams will always stay on and then when you turn your high beams on your fog lights will come on. So for maximum light output you have your highs/ lows and fog lights on. The brite box is the ONLY way to go in my book. Well worth the money There is no way to simply run a jumper wire on these 3rd gens.

 

[Dual3500s]

I didn't realize from the description that the low beams worked normally, so the high beams are what is effected by the brute box... ... got it now is $170 the cheapest around? if not where can I get them cheaper?

 

[CLAYTON]

Check with Geno's Garage.



No doubt in my mind that you'll love the brite box set up. I don't know how I ever drove at night with out it. Putting the 9005's in the fog lights helped quite a bit too.

 

[JCastilleja]

Okay, When I bought my truck, it dodn't have fog lights. I bought the kit from the dealership and installed them myself. The instructions said to connect the "accessory" wire (jump to) the lowbeam power wire. Since I did not want to be in the same situation you are in - fog lights only with low beams - I connected the "accesory" wire to a spare ion my fuse block. Make sure the spare is ignition powered, so the fog lights will turn off when you shut the engine off. Also, I have a different switch for the fog lights - not on the truck light control. So, in theory, see if you can remove your light switch from the dash, check which wire for the fog lights runs to the low beam wire and jump it there - presto, fogs with high beams. I do not know which wire that would be. I am sure there are guys on this board that have a wiring diagram to help you out. Good luck!



PS... . I still don't have a fancy signature block yet... LOL!

 

[RRoton]

Okay, When I bought my truck, it dodn't have fog lights. I bought the kit from the dealership and installed them myself. The instructions said to connect the "accessory" wire (jump to) the lowbeam power wire. Since I did not want to be in the same situation you are in - fog lights only with low beams - I connected the "accesory" wire to a spare ion my fuse block. Make sure the spare is ignition powered, so the fog lights will turn off when you shut the engine off. Also, I have a different switch for the fog lights - not on the truck light control. So, in theory, see if you can remove your light switch from the dash, check which wire for the fog lights runs to the low beam wire and jump it there - presto, fogs with high beams. I do not know which wire that would be. I am sure there are guys on this board that have a wiring diagram to help you out. Good luck!









Now Thats a very interesting post.

I'll have to look into that

 

[OTRPU]

Seems to me fogs with high beams is counter productive. I've noticed in fog if I turn the high beams on it reflects back off the fog. Actually see through the fog better with low beams.



Cheers,

Steve J

 

[TheodoreMoon]

Don't know if this holds true for the Dodge trucks, but it does for Daimler's other stablemate, the Jeep. I have done this mod when I mounted the foglights up high and adjusted the angle to turn them into off-road driving lights of sorts.



There is a relay that closes when HiBeams go on and this current operates a relay that opens a switch to the foglights. What I did was to take a bit of plastic from a blister package (about 0. 1 mm thickness) and cut out a little insulating square to wedge in the Hi Beam relay so that it wouldn't close when the Hi Beams go on and then the fog light relay don't see any current (don't open the switch) and fogs stay on. To switch back to stock, just pull the plastic out. No messy splicing, soldering, etc.



Here is a link that shows how to do it, but instead of using an insulator in the relay itself, the author bent the tab to prevent the current from travelling. Probably a little easier than removing the cover to the relay, but seems a bit more hack.



http://www.getahelmet.com/jeeps/tech/fogrelay/

 

[SRadke]

Seems to me fogs with high beams is counter productive. I've noticed in fog if I turn the high beams on it reflects back off the fog. Actually see through the fog better with low beams.



Cheers,

Steve J

This is true but when traveling poor roads at night, especially gravel roads, I like to have the fogs with the high beams when it is not foggy. The fogs put light flat on the road and really work well for picking out things like road debis and potholes.



-Scott

 

[RRoton]

Seems to me fogs with high beams is counter productive. I've noticed in fog if I turn the high beams on it reflects back off the fog. Actually see through the fog better with low beams.



Cheers,

Steve J

I think you are missing the point.



I don't want to use high beams in fog.



I want to use BOTH fogs and high beams in NON-FOG conditions when there is no on-coming traffic. Why? For better visibility.



In other words, I don't want the high beams to come on with the fogs.

But,I do want the fogs to come on with the high beams.

 

[CLAYTON]

This is true but when traveling poor roads at night, especially gravel roads, I like to have the fogs with the high beams when it is not foggy. The fogs put light flat on the road and really work well for picking out things like road debis and potholes.



-Scott

AND...

I think you are missing the point.



I don't want to use high beams in fog.



I want to use BOTH fogs and high beams in NON-FOG conditions when there is no on-coming traffic. Why? For better visibility.



In other words, I don't want the high beams to come on with the fogs.

But,I do want the fogs to come on with the high beams.

I couldn't agree more

 

[bighammer]

I removed my fog lamps because of my Ranch Hand bumper. I don't miss them at all. The light output I get with the low and high beams on together seems to be plenty. (simple and FREE BOMBing of the high beam switch )

 

[JCastilleja]

This is true but when traveling poor roads at night, especially gravel roads, I like to have the fogs with the high beams when it is not foggy. The fogs put light flat on the road and really work well for picking out things like road debis and potholes.



-Scott

I agree. That is precisely why I chose to have the fogs on with the high beams. I live in the northwest and driving on the highway in the forrests can be an interesting proposition! i. e. wildlife... only a matter of time before Bambi goes to "Bambiland in a bambilance"... lol. Seriously, I just sold my 03 4Runner for my truck and miss having both the high and low beams on at the same time (seperate bulbs) AND the fogs on at the same time. A lot of light w/out investing in seperate driving lights. I would definately NOT recommend driving with high beams on in the fog. I lived in Germany for a while and can testify that it "NO WORKIE!" I hope you find a solution soon!! :-laf

 

[Pilotman]

These are not 70s Cars

The Dodges have a BCM moduel. (Body control moduel) The lights are run on a resistence buss line. In other words to turn on the lights you place a certain resiter from the buss line to ground. This is the way the Dodge keeps about 1/3rd the wireing in the vehicle. It works great due to less things to break theory. Just not great for installing after market alarms and doing lighting mods... ... Sorry its not as simple as you think.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

Check out www.thebritebox.com for a lot of info. They have a less expensive box to do the fog lights with high beams on, and a high end setup that does "everything. " The Fogzilla is also worthwhile as it makes it easier to use 9005 high beams in the fog lamp housings instead of the stock 9006 low beams.



[edited url, thanks Tom]