High Diesel Price Contact the Senators in Washington DC

[JBlock]

I just sent the following to Washington DC for my State Senators and Representatives. Also to the State of Washington representatives where I live.



There appears to be price gouging going on at the diesel pump in Washington State. Diesel which historical is cheaper than Premium Unleaded is $0. 50 a gallon higher than premium unleaded gasoline, and some $0. 60 to 0. 80 a gallon over regular unleaded.



I work in oil and gas. Diesel cost less than unleaded in most country around the world. Why just in the last 12 months are diesel price continuing to rise?



It appears big oil is taking advantage of the public and the trucking industry. This hurting both Washington State which has some of the high prices in the USA other than Hawaii and Alaska.



Your intervention with the Attorney General is very much appreciated. "



Go to Google and type in your "state" and the word "senator" and it take to webform. You can do the same at the state level. I send 15 webforms in 10 minutes.



Let say 35,000 TDR members, one in 10 writes in the few days a thats over 3500 letters complianing,



Remember when the Government had a windfall TX on Big Oil maybe in time to do it again.

 

[JBlock]

I thought might want to here what came back:



Mr. Block,



I have been told that there was a fire in a Canadian refinery that

supplies a large part of the diesel fuel in the NW and supplies of

diesel are limited to 80% to the distributors. My understanding is

that

this may be lowered to a 50% allocation. Perhaps you have some

additional information and I would be interested in that information.

This shortage will have severe impacts on farming and trucking along

with further price increases.



Senator Jim Honeyford

Republican Caucus Chair

PO Box 40415

Olympia, WA 98504-0415

Phone: (360) 786-7684

Fax: (360) 786-7173



How let see one refinery fire and the price goes up 0. 50 cents to dollar a gallon at the pump, seem like price gouging. Maybe we need the price control on Gas and Oil again from the 70's

 

[RustyJC]

Maybe we need the price control on Gas and Oil again from the 70's

As Paul Harvey says, "Now here's the REST of the story. "



What was the result of the 1970s price controls? Do you remember the fuel shortages and the resulting lines at the service stations? Because of price controls, demand could not be curtailed through price increases to match the restricted supply caused by the Arab oil embargo. Government intervention into a free market economy generally invokes the Law of Unintended Consequences.



Rusty

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

"High Diesel Price Contact the Senators in Washington DC"





UMMMmmmm - lessee, would those be the SAME legislators who get large election financing support from the oil industry?



Do any of us REALLY think we'll get anything other than a fast shuffle and a grease job from our boys in Washington DC?

 

[JBlock]

RustyJC



I agree with you in prinicple, price controls are a last resort, but when some of the Bombers who drive for living will be put out of business, something need to be said to get the attention of men like Senator Jim, And the objective is to make sure that price gouging is replacing the fair market values due to allocation of which ndo one thought to tell the comsumers. He head of the Republican Caucus and will get answers. Here his contact infromation



Honeyford, Sen. Jim



Senator Jim Honeyford

Republican Caucus Chair

PO Box 40415

Olympia, WA 98504-0415

Phone: (360) 786-7684

Fax: (360) 786-7173

 

[RustyJC]

Mr. Block,



I have been told that there was a fire in a Canadian refinery that

supplies a large part of the diesel fuel in the NW and supplies of

diesel are limited to 80% to the distributors. My understanding is

that this may be lowered to a 50% allocation.



Senator Jim Honeyford

Republican Caucus Chair

Now, if this is true, what's going to happen when price controls are put in place? Supply is (worst case) 50% of normal. Price is arbitrarily controlled at some level that's politically acceptable to consumers. The demand isn't going to change. The result is that demand will far outstrip supply and massive shortages will occur.



Now, aren't those Bombers who drive for a living going to be in just as bad (if not worse) shape if they can't move their vehicles because they can't obtain (versus can't afford) fuel?



Rusty

 

[radcam]

I think one of the problems is that the oil industry is a big contributor to politicians both state and federal. They used the same refinery excuse here in Cal. Now it stands to reason that if refinery output is down then wouldn't all fuel prices go up by the same amount. I'm no refinery expert but as I understand it diesel fuel is a by product of gasoline production as is kerosene, road oil etc. etc. gotta love Modern Marvels. So as long as the politicians are getting rich I don't think they are going to do a whole lot to help us out.

 

[jandtjil]

I remember something about the California elec scandal and how energy brokers were selectively taking large amounts of energy off the grid to artificially create demand (higher prices).

Could, much of this be manufucatured information (probably not a fire), but situations like a portion of the refiinery being taken off-line for maint, etc. causing shortage and the now higher prices... .

possible. . ?

$2. 32 a gal at a station I passed on the way home this morning here in Vegas.





JJ

 

[GerryDrake]

The closest station to me has been at $2. 499 for the past several days. Granted, they normally can be beat by a nickel or so in the are, but ??? sheesh !!

 

[hammersley]

You guys are right on target-----

These clowns are what's wrong when capitalism has no controls - it will always screw the little guy if they get a chance! The same people who want free markets for oil - applaud farm subsidies... ... . the only thing good about these high prices is that it's hurting a lot of folks who should have known better! If you think these people have your best interests in mind - well I have some land for you - and I really do... ... .

 

[Un-Hemi]

Here ya go.

http://www.suncor.com/links_popup.aspx?ID=2474



There isn't enough reserve refinery capacity in the system to offset this????

 

[amsoilman]

I thought might want to here what came back:



Mr. Block,



I have been told that there was a fire in a Canadian refinery that

supplies a large part of the diesel fuel in the NW and supplies of

diesel are limited to 80% to the distributors. My understanding is

that

this may be lowered to a 50% allocation. Perhaps you have some

additional information and I would be interested in that information.

This shortage will have severe impacts on farming and trucking along

with further price increases.



Senator Jim Honeyford

Republican Caucus Chair

PO Box 40415

Olympia, WA 98504-0415

Phone: (360) 786-7684

Fax: (360) 786-7173



How let see one refinery fire and the price goes up 0. 50 cents to dollar a gallon at the pump, seem like price gouging. Maybe we need the price control on Gas and Oil again from the 70's

Well, that same fire must have had the same effect here in Utah, as the Diesel price where I live is some $. 40- $. 60 per gallon higher than Premium unleaded!



Wayne

amsoilman

 

[WBusa]

Great source of data on diesel (and gasoline) prices:

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp



Demand is up...



Production is down...



Its just a law of nature, my friends (don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean I like it any)



To quote from a USA Today article dated 9/27/04 ("Diesel fuel prices follow oil uphill"):



"Diesel prices overtook gasoline prices Aug. 30; that usually happens no earlier than October and sometimes as late as December, EIA says.



Diesel and heating oil are similar refinery products. Demand for heating oil rises as winter approaches, just as demand for diesel grows as fall harvest season arrives. That competition for supplies drives up prices.



High gas prices attract foreign supplies and encourage motorists to drive less. The result: Supply rises, demand falls, prices come down. But diesel fuel is used mainly by over-the-road trucks, trains, farmers and other businesses that can't simply cut back. "

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Over the last few years, I've heard it all...



"we have a glut of crude oil - prices MUST go up... "

"We have a SHORTAGE of crude oil, prices MUST go up... "

"The Arabs have cut production, prices MUST go up... "

"The Arabs are pumping too MUCH crude. the price MUST go up... "



Fact is, I don't recall ANY scenario that EVER allowed prices to return to their original level - they take 3 step FORWARD, and 2 back - but slowly creep in ONE direction, ever HIGHER - REGARDLESS of the supply of crude...



MEANWHILE, the oil companies continue to rake in record profits - and our bought-and-paid-for politicians keep walking in circles whistling into the sky, and put on a GREAT act of not knowing WHAT to do about the problem, other than yet another "investigation" that NEVER provides any info OR relief!



Are we stupid, or what?

 

[Tony T.]

Over the last few years, I've heard it all...



"we have a glut of crude oil - prices MUST go up... "

"We have a SHORTAGE of crude oil, prices MUST go up... "

"The Arabs have cut production, prices MUST go up... "

"The Arabs are pumping too MUCH crude. the price MUST go up... "



Fact is, I don't recall ANY scenario that EVER allowed prices to return to their original level - they take 3 step FORWARD, and 2 back - but slowly creep in ONE direction, ever HIGHER - REGARDLESS of the supply of crude...



MEANWHILE, the oil companies continue to rake in record profits - and our bought-and-paid-for politicians keep walking in circles whistling into the sky, and put on a GREAT act of not knowing WHAT to do about the problem, other than yet another "investigation" that NEVER provides any info OR relief!



Are we stupid, or what?

Sure Gary the playing "dumb" act. This diesel fuel is not alone in increase's of price or the term I like "gouging". The other utility's such as natural gas, propane, etc has all done a follow up on increase. Take natural gas that we use here for heating-furnance,water heater,cooking was super cheap, until this lastest company bought out TXU, my gas bill went up over $50. 00 from one month and it was because of the buy out, not us using more, and them wanting to hurry up and make their money back up, same with propane not to long ago was cheap. It will never return unless someone comes up with something better to replace it, then their usually bought out or given the opportunity to live.



Usually what goes around comes around,if not this life maybe the next.



Tony

 

[Tony T.]

Over the last few years, I've heard it all...



"we have a glut of crude oil - prices MUST go up... "

"We have a SHORTAGE of crude oil, prices MUST go up... "

"The Arabs have cut production, prices MUST go up... "

"The Arabs are pumping too MUCH crude. the price MUST go up... "



Fact is, I don't recall ANY scenario that EVER allowed prices to return to their original level - they take 3 step FORWARD, and 2 back - but slowly creep in ONE direction, ever HIGHER - REGARDLESS of the supply of crude...



MEANWHILE, the oil companies continue to rake in record profits - and our bought-and-paid-for politicians keep walking in circles whistling into the sky, and put on a GREAT act of not knowing WHAT to do about the problem, other than yet another "investigation" that NEVER provides any info OR relief!



Are we stupid, or what?

Sure Gary the playing "dumb" act. This diesel fuel is not alone in increase's of price or the term I like "gouging". The other utility's such as natural gas, propane, etc has all done a follow up on increase. Take natural gas that we use here for heating-furnance,water heater,cooking was super cheap, until this lastest company bought out TXU, my gas bill went up over $50. 00 from one month and it was because of the buy out, not us using more, and them wanting to hurry up and make their money back up, same with propane not to long ago was cheap. It will never return unless someone comes up with something better to replace it, then their usually bought out or given the opportunity to live.



Usually what goes around comes around,if not this life maybe the next.



Tony