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What is a good hitch for a gooseneck horse trailer? Would suspect pin weight of 1600 pounds, loaded weight of 12,000+ pounds.



Is the Hidden Hitch any good? I don't mind some spare capacity.



Finally, where should the hitch be mounted? OVER the rear axle, or in front?





Thank you,



Mike
 
Most hitches I've seen are 4-6" ahead of the axle. Seen a few that were straight over the top, but he had a long flatbed that prevented him from going ahead more.



IIRC, mine is 6" ahead.



I built my own hitch, but I know several people with the B&W hitch, and love them. www.turnoverball.com
 
I've got a stock trailer hooked to mine most all the time. My hitch was welded in by a local trailer manufacturerer and is a solid 6" fore the rear axle.
 
I have the Pop-Up GN hitch, installed it myself, am very pleased with it. It is fwd of the axle. I pull an 8'x32' 2-axle enclosed aluminum GN horse trailer with a large living quarter and 3 draft horses on board, all the junk that goes with them, no problems. I also pull a GN steel flatbed 8'x26' 2-axle with around 250 square bales of hay at about 120# ea, no problems. I did get an offset ball which sets the trailer connection more toward the rear for the GN to clear the cab in short turning radius because of the short bed. I am very happy with the hitch.



CD
 
Check out Diamond Hitch. Only 4" opening in bed, smooth when turned over, and no handle in wheel well. Plus, I like the fact that they spend there advertising money with TDR.
 
One of the big reasons of putting the hitch point in front of the rear axle is to put some extra weight on the front axle... remember that if the weight is behind the axle the lever effect will tend to lift the front axle...



We pull a 22K lb trailer most of the time with our 04, now has 185K miles... its a goose neck style... . the filp over ball with the lever in the wheel well...



We have a set of Air Lift air bags and air horns on this truck as well as a PacBrake... even across the desert at 115*F. We don't have problems... .
 
I use the B&W, I have had several of them. They are pre-engineered for the model of truck so you don't really get to pick where the ball ends up. On long beds it is generally ahead of axle centerline, on short beds they move it back a little. I know the one for my megacab was different from the QC SB version too.



As testament to stregnth, I had two different trucks in accidents over the years. Both pulling my 30+ ft gooseneck flatbeds. One was a Chev Berretta that crossed the center line and hit the trailer head on. No damage to my equipment but that hitch took the forces of my truck moving 60 mph in one direction and the car moving 60 in the other direction. The second one was a Chev Suburban that took the side mirror off my truck and hit the trailer head on at 60+ mph. Once again we checked out the hitch/ball etc. and found no damage. They are incredibly strong. I can't see any reason to switch brands after performances like that.
 
I've got to agree with BHolm, B&W is the best you can buy in my opinion. Had one in my last three trucks. I have a 24' Sooner stock trailer hooked up about 75%of the time. Never had a problem with one.
 
I will give another vote the B&W hitch. I have had them in my last 2 trucks and been very happy. I also have the companion for the fver and love it, it's a bit heavy but beats having the rails in the bed IMO. I can't find it now but I seen a picture of a guy in a Ford that was going across Wyoming in the winter and run of the road into a snow bank w/ a wilson stock trailer in tow and it folded his truck in half, trailer was fine and still hooked to his B&W I beleive. I wonder where the weakest link was there?
 
I'm going to speak up as the lone voice who hates the b+w hitch. They might be great elsewhere, but around here in the land of roadsalt, they suck. Once it's rusted in place, you have a $500 solid mounted ball--non turnover... and it WILL rust in place. I use the one found on dad's website. It too will rust, but can be easily accessed from underneath and popped loose. With the b+w, once it's rusted, you're screwed. I tow a stock trailer that routinely weighs in at 27-28K and I haven't broke my Drop'n'Lock.
 
A thin coat of grease every once in a while solves the rusting problem. I've been running goosenecks on pick-ups with B&W hitches for years in Minnesota and never had the ball rust into place. I have had to lube the release mechanism a few times to get the pin to release but never had any real trouble. Once the pin is released you can pound a B&W ball out from the bottom as well.
 
YFZBOB said:
B&W hands down. A hitch that can pull 16K and take the punishment the I-15 north of Barstow is awesome.

B&W here also, pulling upwards of21k# up that POS stretch of asphalt !!! Truck is up and running again, wallets a helluva lot lighter, but hey!... ... :rolleyes:
 
I have a new hidden hitch with the bedrails and its rated at 25k, gooseball and pop out 4 pins and you can slide in a 5th wheel hitch. So far so good and rails not in the way either.
 
I have to throw in my vote for the B&W Companion hitch. I have pulled inverted ball and ball in bed trailers, and love the hitch. I had a Hide-A-Ball before, but like this one a lot more!
 
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