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It is a nightmare!

It is truly amazing the way Ford has handled that situation. I bought a 99 when they became available in mid 98. I lived that bad dream. Here it is over three years later and Ford still has done nothing more than a feeble attempt (change one injector) to fix the problem. While not all trucks had the problem, the ones that do are stuck with it. Think about it, three years after the problem surfaced, some trucks are still coming off the assembly line with the problem. Plus, with the next generation engine coming out soon, how hard will Ford work to resolve this.

I went to the link you provided and read some of the posts and they are the same as they were three years, just different names on the same old posts. Sort of like a second generation of victims.



Of course I used the only method known to fix that problem. I took that POSPSD to my local Dodge dealer, tossed them the keys and said I would take that shiny white Cummins sitting in the corner of the lot.



Sam
 
Re: It is a nightmare!

Originally posted by Ram4Sam

Think about it, three years after the problem surfaced, some trucks are still coming off the assembly line with the problem.



Sam



Reminds me of the Chrysler OD transmissions in the minivans. How long did they keep cranking those out with known design flaws?:rolleyes:
 
They all have their quirks

Kind of reminds me of the cruddy steering that Dodge can't (won't) fix right. I've tried everything and while my trucks much better, its not perfect. So long as it starts and runs then the dealers don't seem to worried about anything else.
 
Just think

The Cummins is going to an injector system simiar to this in the "echo" for 2003. Hope it doesn't have problems like this.
 
I'm not flaming the s'droF, but I went to the Base Clinic this morning one of the MedTechs was trying to start one of their two droF Diesels that had sat outside all night, and after cranking it for about 15 seconds, waited for about 30 seconds and tried again. After about another 10 seconds or so of cranking, it finally started and I was thinking that I know it's a diesel, but I've never heard one as loud as that. I truly thought that engine was coming apart. It was the most horrible engine sound I had ever heard, even worse than the GM diesel we used to have in our previous mail van, and that thing was loud. It was sad hearing that thing trying to run. I was almost embarassed for the person trying to get it started.
 
BV - Cummins is going to a high pressure common rail system - not even close to the HEUI in the PSD. The HEUI uses oil pressure to drive the injectors - lose your viscosity or foam your oil and you are up the creek.
 
I am so glad

that I have an old outdated fuel system!!:rolleyes: the new ECHO (or whatever) may not be like the PSD's but all those electronics really spook me..... :confused: , Jim
 
tommy... . there are too many computers on the TDI,kinda spooky! but its my wife that wants one, and its the only car with a REAL diesel, would like to find one of the last VW turbo diesels made before the TDI, even if its not direct injection. Jim
 
I read about the fuel cackle two years ago when I started researching new diesel pickups. I know the local ford dealer and would have bought a super duty if it weren't for fords lack of trying to fix that fuel cackle. I'm sorry to hear about those guys problems, but I'm really glad I bought my Cummins!
 
:)I work for KW and we are authorized Cummins and Cat. The new Cummuns ISBE will have from what I understand basicaly the same injector as the N14, and the new ISL ect series engines. The unit injector uses machanical timing from the camshaft and the injector is supplied by fuel through a rail system integrated in a passage in the heads. If you could see into the unit injector is uses fuel and check balls to increase the fuel pressure, the ECU then signals the injector as to how long to inject the fuel and how much. Cummins has not had many problems with this system, but it is quite simlar to the old pt system other than the eclectronic controls. I think the power will be higher (how high can you go without making them medium duty trucks?). Any way this is my two cents worth. I am exicted about the new Dodge, Cummins powerhouse. I think it is the best of both the truck world and the engine world. The description of the electronic injector uses plugers as well and is a bit more complicated than the statement I made erlier but it does not use oil pressure in one side of the injector as does the HUEI system. But I am guessing that the injectors will be relatively expensive. I think the N14 and IS series injectors are around $400. 00 each, about the same as the 3406E Cat. I've rambled long enoug. Thanks for a fine website and good members.
 
My brother-in-law recently bought a new SD PSD. He did not ask my opinion what to buy, before he bought it and I don't want to hear his complaining now that he owns it.
 
kcjayco- The new injection system has nothing to do with that on the N 14 or other heavy duty diesels I have seen. The new isbe system works the exact same way that a gasoline injection system works. The injectors don't work with the cam in any way, they are just solenoid valves, they just work with much higher pressures than a gas system. In an n 14 or equivalant, the injector itself produces the pressure needed to get the fuel into the cylinder. Not insulting you or anything, I just think you have been misinformed.
 
CAnderson, I am not positive how it will work, but something has to supply the high pressure for the fuel. Either the injector it's self with fuel or like the HUIE, oil pressure. We will be getting all the information on the new in next week or so and then there will be no mistery. I take no offense, I certainly don't have all the answers. I work on diesel engines daily, but have not seen all the info on the new Cummins B series. I will let you know what Cummins sends out in the next little while if you are interested.
 
The high pressure is created by a high pressure (22,000 psi or something) fuel pump. Like I said, the operation of the system is similar to a gas injection system.
 
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