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Originally posted by Sparky10

Yamaha EF2800i - 60. 0 - 67. 0 dBA



Honda EU2000 - 53 - 59 dBA



Honda EU3000 - 49 - 58 dBA



Hi Scott,

Correct me if I am wrong but those numbers represent no load and full load numbers.



At first look they do look very close but now I see that the EU2000 at full load is more quiet than the 2800 at idle/no load.



I have the 2000 and its idle no load dBA is what sold me on the unit. Full load dBA is pretty darn quiet but still can be intrusive in close camping. No load and low loads are barley noticeable, I am talking a TV and DVD kind of loads.

The wifes blow dryer will kick it up right quick.



The 2800 could be a neat unit at only 64lbs that should run a newer style A/C.

I have A/C on the TT but never use it as we camp in the fall and spring and are usually pretty high in altitude.



If I needed to run the A/C I too would look pretty hard at the 2800 but you need to listen to them both before you buy.

I would stop in at some RV parks and take a walk around to see if anyone is using one or have a dealer demo.



IMO the 2000 is perfect if you don't need A/C, you can even cut the noise still more by setting it away from the trailer and pointing the exhaust away.



The 2800 would be good for A/C but even 64lbs gets kinda heavy pulling it in and out of the truck bed.



The 3000 would be nice for extended camping and left in the truck.
 
Seems like that is actually a pretty large sound difference... however they might not be measured at the same distance or some other factor.



Someone in this group who is up on these things could probably tell you what 8 decibels would mean.



After you get used to the Honda at econo speeds, it seems rather loud at full throttle! (Of course still nothing like that ear blasting, refrigerator killing, junk Coleman 1800 I tried for a few days!!!) :)



DanDee
 
Make sure you are comparing apples to apples.



Many companies use a different standard. National park Service Limit is 60 dp @ 50 feet from the source. Honda measures theirs @ 23 feet, Onan @ 10 feet... ... . and to add more confusion some are measured enclosed.



7db is considerable if they are measured at the same distance.
 
Originally posted by Gary - KJ6Q

HMMmmmm - two 2000's are more than I really need - one isn't big enough for those occasions when the AC would be nice - too bad Honda doesn't have a 2500 that would bridge the gap...



I was thinking that its to bad Honda didn't make a EU4000.
 
Someone in this group who is up on these things could probably tell you what 8 decibels would mean.



3 db is twice as loud, so doubling that again to get 6 db would be *4 times* as loud - and *8* db is almost *8 times* as loud - pretty significant!
 
Thanks for all of the info and imput guys. This site is just great for gathering needed information and assistance. I guess I really need to go to the dealers and hear them for myself. That would be the smart thing to do.



When I dry camp it is usually at a Fire Camp somewhere and the noise is not a huge concern although I still want to be considerate to those who are resting up from a long night shift.



I do wish to be able to run the A/C though and have to take that into consideration. Or if the power should go out at home and need to run a few appliances in the house, such as the refrigerator or freezer.



Thanks Again,

Scott
 
These generators sounds awesome guys.



Here is what really bothers me:



I've put WHO knows how many idling hours on my truck in the past 9 months 90,000 miles. 90% of this was to keep me from freezing my butt off. The other 10% was for A/C and humidity control.



If I had purchased a EU1000 at the beginning, I'd have saved money, had a cool generator!!! and put less wear & tear on my motor.



This is 20/20 hindsight! :)
 
Originally posted by DanDee

RankRam,



Somewhere I have a web site for a guy who made a pair of box's that fit near the tailgate on a truck set up for a 5th wheel . Neat way to carry two, he just flips down each end and runs them in place!



DanDee



I finally got around to taking some pictures (Reader's rigs)of mine installed on the back of my fifth wheel. Works great both stationary and going down the highway, best part is I can simply pull out the reciever hitch pin and put the box on the back of my truck and take them anywhere you need power.
 
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The Honda EU series generators use inverter technology, allowing them to be run in parallel. This technology is a bit unusual, and some people are not aware of that capability, and therefore are making a caution that would apply to conventional generators. No flame intended to anyone; this is how we all learn.
 
DB Sound Levels

Just to keep it simple...



The deciBel is a power level measurement.



1 dB is the amount of sound power just detectable by the human ear.



3 dB is twice the power level of the referenced power.



Looking at two levels that are 10 dB a part numerically seems "close", but...



3 db = X2

6 dB = X4

9 dB = X8

10 dB= X8 and a tad more



Comparing sound levels...

The dBa is noise level above "ambient" or surroundings and is sometimes referred to as SPL or Sound Power Level.



Yamaha EF2800i - 60. 0 - 67. 0 dBA

Honda EU2000 - 53 - 59 dBA



The Honda in this case is quieter at full load than the yamaha idling at no load. And when the yamaha is fully loaded, it is more than 8 times louder than the Honda.



Average city traffic noise is considered to be about 85-87 dBa by comparison.



For my nickel, two Honda EU2000's are more sensible than one larger gen set regardless of brand simply because as mentioned, the extra one can be shut down if not needed.
 
Got my Honda's

Two of them arrived tonight. Got the oil in and filled them up for a dry run.



Sweet! I'm going to hook them up to the trailer for a test run tomorrow.



Got them from alamia.com
 
My experiences with these generators:



I have owned a Yamaha YG2800i. This is identical to the EF2800i except that the YG2800i comes with a GFI 20 amp duplex receptacle instead of one that does not have the GFI protection. I purchased mine from USA Light and Electric and received great service and a great price. They can be found at:



http://www.yamahagenerators.com/



This generator worked well with our 32 foot Holiday Rambler travel trailer. It ran the air conditioner and everything else we used. I did not attempt to run the a/c and the microwave at the same time. Running the a/c in July in the Washington, DC, area would empty the 3 gallon tank in about 20-24 hours. At more normal loads, a full tank will run that generator for a couple of days easily.



When we got the 34 foot Airstream, with its 13,500 BTU air conditioner, we found that the Yamaha would not start the a/c. I didn't think that the a/c on the Airstream was any larger than the one on the Holiday Rambler, but I guess it is.



The Yamaha was quiet enough to run it constantly at a dog show with no complaints from any neighbors. It didn't bother us inside the trailer either.



I haven't owned any of the Hondas, but I heard a number of them running at a lumber products show I attended recently. The Honda EU3000 units were so quiet that I couldn't tell they were running until I was standing beside them. Often I could hear a generator running in the distance as I walked through the RV parking area and didn't know that the Honda EU3000 that was 15 feet away was also running. I would have to be within 15-10 feet of the generator before I realized it was on. This was with normal daytime noises in the RV parking. No one was running a chain saw in this area. I'm sure at night, the generator noise would be more easily heard, but I would not find it offensive. Every owner I talked to loved it.



There were a few of the Honda EU2000 generators there, but not enough for me to form an opinion on them. If I were in the market for a generator again, I would buy a pair of the EU2000 units plus the parallel adaptor. This would allow me to run the Airstream's air conditioning with both units, or to use just one when the load didn't require maximum power. They are also much easier to handle, as stated above. The price for two EU2000's is about the same as the price for a single higher-power unit.



Yamaha is now making the EF3000iSEB. This unit uses the starting battery to add to the generator's output to provide a power boost when required. It's supposedly very quiet. The drawback to it is that it's heavy and expensive. It's available here:



http://www.yamahagenerators.com/ef3000iseb.htm?cart=10984178121699161



If you are curious, I am now running an Onan MicroLite 4000. The reason for this is because we already owned it. I had never gotten around to building a cart for it because the Yamaha was so handy. When the Yamaha wouldn't pull the load for the Airstream I dusted off the Onan. It's a nice unit that has plenty of power. It's also surprisingly quiet, but it's also big and heavy. The main thing in its favor is that it's paid for.



The bottom line: If the Yamaha will do the job for you, buy it. It's a nice, compact, economical, quiet generator that's light enough to lift. If you get the Yamaha, buy the YG2800i, not the EF2800i. If that's not enough generator, try the big Honda or two small Hondas in parallel.



Loren
 
Thanks for the link, but I do not see how the YG can be any stronger than the EF. I am planning on buying one of these soon for home and RV use and the only difference seems to be the cage, GFI recepticle, and the warrantee is shorter on the YG.
 
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