Horton Fan Clutch Survey

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The survey is fixed. Sorry I broke it yesterday when I moved it. It's all better now. Go and post your responses.

Thanks!!

 

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I was thinking about the Horton setup for quite some time before I decided to get one. The very next day I found a member that had one for sale used for 250 beans. Needless to say, my order got stopped and I got the used one. A very good purchase and would do it again even if I had to purchase a new one.

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94 4x4 SLT Geno's guages,mystery switch,TST 230/605,straight pipe from turbo,110,000+ miles,much more to come

 

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I've heard someone complain of the fan being on almost all the time in warm/hot conditions in stop and go traffic.

Mine is the opposite, it rarely comes on. On the other hand, I believe the factory fan clutch is always parially engaged, not completely free-wheeling like the Horton.

John, the other man who had a problem (the same problem I had) was Peter Campbell in New York.
Andy

 

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Thanks Andy! Now I will be able to sleep nights... hey, wait a minute, I work nights, I guess I meant to say, now I will be able to sleep during the day... ya right, #ad
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BTW, has anyone heard from Peter Campbell?

[This message has been edited by John (edited 06-07-2000). ]

 

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Not sure if this has been asked/answered. At what temp does the fan engage? What is the opening temp on the thermostat - 12V & 24V? Can the fan switch be adjusted to come on AFTER the thermostat has opened?

Brian

 

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Good question Brian, I don't know. I had a mechanic friend install my Horton, and I never got the instructions or any included literature that might have been in the box.
Andy

 

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I purchased a Horton fan clutch for my 92 Dodge in 1993 based on my experience with Horton on heavy duty trucks. The 92 radiator was marginal for the Cummins engine and the Horton did a good job pulling air across the raidator. Even with air temperatures of 100 degrees and the air conditioner on, the fan cycled off and on while towing the 5th wheel trailer. I had very good results with the Horton and sold it to another TDR member when I traded the 92 for a 97. He has since traded trucks and sold it to another Dodge/Cummins owner and it is still the running today.

I have not purchased a Horton for my 97 or '00 truck because the radiator is sufficient size for the Cummins engine. One thing I was amazed about the Horton on the first generation truck was the small amount of time the fan was actually engaged.

On the Horton that I had, the fan engaged when the coolant temperature reached 203-205 degrees which is when the thermostat is fully open. The only way you could adjust the open and closing is to change the sensors. (Heavy duty truck dealers carry the different sensors) If the fan engages before the thermostat is fully open, the fan is running needlessly. You could always override the sensor with the manual switch on the dash.

I used the Horton as a cooling aid and only for that purpose. If it saved fuel, it wasn't that noticeable. However, the fan did run very little in the cooler months.

If my present truck needed a coling aid, the Horton would be the next thing to be added. I had nothing but good results on the 92 with the Horton. I would buy another one in a minute!!!
Bill

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Brian - I read somwhere that the 24v thermo is fully open at 206f degrees.

 

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I've Had the Horton Fan for about a year and am very satisfied with it. If I am moving more than about 10 MPH the fan has very rarely if ever come on. With the AC working and stopped at a traffic light the fan will cycle on and off, but as soon as I am moving it goes off and stays off. It has to be extremely hot outside for it to ever come on in normal driving, 90-100 degrees. and the only in slow traffic. If I am driving with the AC on in slow traffic I will switch the unit on manually rather then have it pop on & off. I like it. It's quiet when off (most of the time) but noisy when on. It was expensive.

 

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Would have to did back thru my records to find milage before failure BUT--
cost of unit compaired to cost of OEM fan sys only of by $100+. had to replace factory blade (cracked)once--the next time needed new drive unitAND i wanted over-ride protection on the long pulls and when setting in traffic A/C .
I loged around 200k before failure with the Horton. DC didn't have parts people in 3 locations that could or would get me just the new drive unit--said it only came in a new kit.
the unit worked its heart out in that time,
called Truck Pro ( Big Rig Horton supplier) in Indy and they are getting me what DC can't
Is it worth the cost for override protuction--yes But price'ie
The system needs a connector about a foot from the drive unit so you can replace a fan belt without removing the unit or wiring to replace the same.
should also have a 195 deg temp control instead of the the currant 200.
Once the coolant sys get over 190 thermostat never closes till eng is turned-off that means the coolant in the radiator is also the same temp as the eng.
so if you see a big hill best to over ride before you get to it. That rad is not new any more and you are going to need all the extra help when loaded to the max-98 deg. 10k feet to climb,A/C on max. and the little wife dosn't like to sweat!! 195 sensor would help.
Yes i would buy another.


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What about removing the stock fan all together??? Atleast for most of the year??? Enough of us have watched coolant temps, oil temps ... . summer and winter... for many, many miles and I really wonder if it would be needed in most situations. I have seen 190 degrees three times in 170K. Twice with winter front on.

It is not hard to control how much heat one makes. I realize one would have to pay attention with AC in summer time, but if the horton 'senses' it is not needed for almost all driving in CA it darn well is not going to be needed in ND for all but a month or two a year.

I have replaced my stock clutch fan at 80K. This one will eventualy fail also. Wondering if I should just remove for all but the month of July?

"Poor man's Horton Fan"

jjw
ND

 

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Rob,
Just to throw my $0. 02 in. To expensive for value added for efficiency.

 

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Hi All,
I've have a Horton on my truck for about the last two years. I also had the problem where the fan hit the mounting bracket. Luckily, since I bought it through my local dealer, they agreed to fix the fan and replace the fan under warranty since it's a MOPAR part. Apparently the fan for the 24 valve (I have a very early one) is a little different than the fan for the 12 valve. They did some work for the newer fans meant for the 24 valves to give better clearance between the fan and the bracket.

The fan runs very infrequently... when you slow down after a long climb, etc. It is also quiter at highway speeds without the fan running. When the fan does run, it cools the engine very quickly.

I would buy another one.

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98. 5 2500 4x4, QC, SB, Cummins ISB, Auto Trans, SLT, 3. 54 w/ LSD,
Horton Fan Clutch, Mag Hy-Tec transmission Pan, TransGo Performance Shift Kit,
Warn Front Receiver, K&N Air Filter, Van Aaken CPC, 275 HP Injectors,
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Question: I believe I heard that Dodge was going to switch from a viscous/thermal fan clutch to an electric fan clutch controlled by the engine ECM. Anyone know about this? Am I dead wrong?