Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Hot Rod Vp44?

[c-hawk]

Matt,



I think setups like yours is where the HRVP's really shine. Like i said a few posts ago... i would love to give one a try in my ETH. For a lot of people the ability to make some serious hp without needing to tap the wire is a great thing.



thanks

chris

 

[DWeiler]

C-hawk/Matt--makes me wonder how a II-hrvp/mach 4"s and a Catcher would work,maybe too hot/smokie for towing or you would have to keep the revs up and drive by the egt guage. When and if i need a hrvp maybe i'll change out the Catcher and run with the big sticks and hrvp/boost fooler and see what happens. I would like to be at about 450 of usable hp. I'm not to keen on tapping a pump wire anymore,and i am happy with the catcher,but maybe willing to try something different down the road ,who knows?????

 

[dieseldude]

Hrvp

I have had my HRVP on my truck now for about six months and I love it but because of my tanny I have not been able to put the sticks in that I want to really test it. right now I have 285 rv injectors but the transmission will be done soon. PM me for a price on the Industrial Injections HRVP I will see what i can do.

 

[GWall]

i had 524HP with my Hotrod pump from Industrial Injection. thats whats in my sig and WITHOUT the water/meth. i want twins on my truck now!

 

[DennisPerry]

We ran 10. 96 @ 123. 06 mph with the HRVP. It did actually more than we expected. I did however take the HRVP off and sold it to a guy in town and he is very happy with it still. I switched to the Schied pump because I needed more fuel delivery for our Nitrous setup. I will say one thing, with our setup on the race truck we cannot drive it on the street any longer with the Schied Pump. I really like them both but if you are wanting all out power you need to call Schied and talk with them. For that matter call both companies and talk with each of them and make sure you are getting the right product for your application.



Dennis

 

[Jetpilot]

We helped setup a truck that ran the following mods:



HRVP

MAch 4 injectors

Drag Comp

SPS66



Dynojet HP number with no correction was 605 RWHP!



Doug

 

[AFarmer]

My setup demands a lot of fuel as well as pressure to atomize and make power. I'm going to venture off and do a little research between the HRVP and the VP pump from Scheid. Anybody out there with twins and some serious injectors PM me and lets talk about these pumps.

 

[Renoram]

I'll post my opinion, I have a HRVP from II, I don't have a big horsepower truck by any means. The performance with my old injectors stage 3's from II with the HRVP was awesome. It was enough to convince me to sell the drag comp, and just go with a little bit bigger injectors with a boost fooler. I have the boost fooler now, and am close to getting some new edm's.



I guess my new combo will put me somehere in the 400-450 horse range, all without a wire tap box or the surge that comes with a box. I'll never know what horsepower for sure, cause my truck is retired from the dyno, but I can say that my truck will tow anything I will ever need it to at any speed I want. What more could you ask for?



HRVP worth it? Absolutely, it got me away from an inefficient box (drag comp) and gave me what I was after when I bought the truck in the first place, a nice driving, powerful, truck.





Matt

Could you tell me what the Industrial Injection website is- or where you bought it at? I am interested!

 

[Jetpilot]

Could you tell me what the Industrial Injection website is- or where you bought it at? I am interested!

Industrial Injection HRVP pumps can be purchased here: www.pdwpower.com



Doug Smith

 

[CGlickert]

Good news my pump seems to be fine. I replaced my MAP sensor today and now my truck is back to norm. I am still very curious about a HRVP as I think it would be a upgrade that would still be a beneifit with future mods.



C Glickert

 

[AFarmer]

Talked to II today - 1 yr warranty and Scheid has a 2yr. What's the deal?? Who's pump is better? What I want to know is who is running that Scheid pump. They obviously know their injection business because of their history but what about the II product?? How are we suppose to know which one is better?? Sorry for the huge amount of questions but I don't do anything on a whim. Anybody got any answers please advise me and the rest of use on this pump.

 

[KSmid]

Doug, what was the corrected #s on that truck listed above?

 

[BradyWilliams]

Just thought I would tell you, to let you know the quality of our SHO VP44. We always replace the PSG with the very latest and best that can be purchased. We use new pump housings, Cams. Heads, advance pistons etc. Damn close to a new pump! We have been building this pump for over 2 years. I just now heard that they have one. We have been in bussiness for 21 years. I have been doing this since 1972, I think we know what we are doing.

 

[SpicyJam]

Just thought I would tell you, to let you know the quality of our SHO VP44. We always replace the PSG with the very latest and best that can be purchased. We use new pump housings, Cams. Heads, advance pistons etc. Damn close to a new pump! We have been building this pump for over 2 years. I just now heard that they have one. We have been in bussiness for 21 years. I have been doing this since 1972, I think we know what we are doing.

I will second that, Industrial Injection is probably one of the most topped notched vendors out there. I am not saying Schieds doesn't know what he is doing, becuse he knows how to make power, but when it comes to the VP's, and mapping out turbo's I will lay my money with II. Besides if you talk to Brady over there he holds no secrets back... ... ... ... . he will tell you like it is. Just my two cents, Jim.

 

[Jetpilot]

Doug, what was the corrected #s on that truck listed above?

I will need to verify the exact number, but the entire day we were running less than 1% correction. So even giving it 1% it would have been 611 RWHP.



Doug

 

[nps]

Just thought I would tell you, to let you know the quality of our SHO VP44. We always replace the PSG with the very latest and best that can be purchased. We use new pump housings, Cams. Heads, advance pistons etc. Damn close to a new pump! We have been building this pump for over 2 years. I just now heard that they have one. We have been in bussiness for 21 years. I have been doing this since 1972, I think we know what we are doing.

What new parts go into your standard VP44 for a HO motor and would you expect it to last as long as the SHO? I'm looking for longevity not power.

 

[SpicyJam]

I just got done re-reading this whole thread. To somewhat I am surprised by some of the comments made. Over a VP and some fault findings in the VP. That most don't even own the HRVP44. First I can say that you can not add up injector horse power numbers, fueling box numbers and expect to achieve that. All variables have to be considered, size of turbo, injectors, and timing all make a diff in the hp chase. All the products you guys see advertised with horse power claims, are numbers derived from a stock truck. Example, timing box 65hp, most fueling boxes 100 horse +, injector ratings 30 hp gain to whatever, are listed over stock.



But now back to this pump. I posted my number gains back in Oct of this year. I actually ran my truck with my HO stock pump on the dyno, I can't exactly remember the numbers, anyway I then changed out the pump to the HRVP44 then ran again. Yes there was an increase, 30hp. Now before someone posts "well that is not much of a gain", let me tell you I am running the stock HX35 and overboosting to 50psi... ... ... ... ... so now do you see why my numbers are low? For driveability and seat of the pants feel, you guys that have a ETH know what I am talking about when the HO pump runs out of fuel with bigger injectors, get a little flat over 2000rpm. That is totally gone with the HRVP, it pulls hard to 3700rpm.

Now, yes I have my wire tapped, yes there is an increase in the hp, as I ran the dyno with the Edge on and off. Unlike some counterfeit HRVP's that use a resistor to hold the solenoid closed for a little longer, the one from II is not that way, I doubt Schieds does either. When you tap your pump wire that is all you are doing to the electronics, is holding the pulse a little longer... ... ... . that is why some of you guys that have bought "other HRVP's" to save a buck, hate it, or are not happy with it. By tapping the wire on that one you actually gain nothing, signal is maxed for the pump already.

Anyway, long winded enough, Brady sorry if I don't know all the "proper terminology" for the parts, but how else can I explain?

Please remember Bosch works very closley with II, and would not let them send anything crappy out the door. When I vist Industrial Injection in March, I am planning on getting a turbo there put on my truck for another dyno event in North Dakota. So I will repost my numbers with a better turbo, going to be a fun road trip.

 

[darkhorse]

Nice post, Spicy! I think I have my HO Vp about maxed out now, but it's still healthy. When it starts to falter, I'll be talking with I. I.

I'll be looking for your results with the new spinner. Sounds like you may have some fast fun this summer.

 

[SpicyJam]

Thanks Darkhorse, as far as II goes I did a lot of research before I asked if I could become a dealer from them. Brady and I have spent countless hours over the phone talking about these pumps as well as turbo's. I have been building twin set up's here in the MN, but with myself having a manual, I wanted to try something different... ... ..... so I am leaning towards a larger single. . plus I do know that Brady is mapping out a matched set of twins... ..... I can't wait to see the work on that project when I vist. Don't get me wrong, I like twins, and everything about them, but around here I like to try products on my own truck before selling them. Maybe I will go twins someday, maybe not. But yes, driving across Montana with my set up now is a blast, and if things go right coming back with a new turbo bolted on, should be fun.

 

[Diesel Freak]

I do know that Brady is mapping out a matched set of twins... ..... I can't wait to see the work on that project when I vist.

I sure hope he is not using the ISB flowrate chart I sent him as a basis. If so, he will be a little dissapointed with the results.



Sorry about that Brady, but it was a little missinformation on my part.



However I am looking forward to out next phone conversation.