Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) hours for gear cover change

[rdrose]

does anyone know what the hrs that it takes to change the front gear cover on a 97 12-v. need to find out how much to charge cummins for the fix on my truck. i'm just asking what the dealer would charge. i asked one dealer and he said 9hrs i thought he was crazy because i got alot of hrs in changing this part. any help would be great.

 

[CumminsPower98]

You must be talking about the gear case not just the cover, am I right? The gear cover change would take less then 2 hours but if you are talking about the gear case that was broken due to a KDP falling out then I have no idea how long that takes.



Mark

 

[rdrose]

case

you are right it is the case not the cover. it was due to the kdp coming out and made a window in the case.

 

[pathaymond]

I had the case pulled at 28K due to a nasty oil leak in the case gasket to block Under warranty the dealer had my truck for a week they said it was about a 30 hour job I know they had alot of pieces on the bench cam shaft etc. not fun looking at all Hope this helps Patrick

 

[Andy Redmond]

Cummins 13 hrs.



Dodge about 9.



Cummins usually pulls the cam.



Some Dodge dealers are using a cam gear puller made by Cummins (Read $1500)



Thus the reason for the shorter flat rate.



When my KDP let go and cracked the housing, Dodge wouldn't pay me to fix it (ind. repair shop. . conflict of interest).



They had the truck from Mon. -Fri. The poor tech didn't eat too well that week. I begged them to sub-let it to the Cummins Dist. , but they had it "under control. "



They removed the front bumper, radiator, innercooler, evac. a/c, removed condensor, fan shroud etc. . Removed the core support and motor mounts. Then pulled the pump, vac. pump/ps pump assy.



The gear cover, the cam and the gear cover itself.



With the Cummins tool the tech only pulls the cam out of several of the journals, installs the fixture and pulls the cam gear, removed the cover, reinstalls a new cover. Represses the cam gear and reinstalls the above.



I think one could maybe get away only with the radiator, fan and shroud removed to have sufficent clearance for the puller.



I know J. Donnelly and Lawrence at Diesel Dyn. are not fond of this puller.



I spoke with a engineer at Cummins recently who wasn't real fond of it either. The pullers ok, but the tech needs to pay close attention to not damage the cam, cam bearings etc.



My . 02 worth.



Andy

 

[ZEEEW]

Lttle bro tackled a new housing gasket himself last weekend, figured around 10 hours, but he had the tools to do the job too. Removed front bumper, rad, intercooler, a/c, camshaft, etc. Did not use puller. No KDP damage just needed a new gasket. KDP was coming out though! Was out about an 1/8" or so, he did the tab fix.

Was quoted 30 hours at diesel shop, 1500 bucks.

 

[illflem]

Sounds like some shops charge you for the time when your truck is disassembled at night

 

[WDaniels]

DC will only reimburse the dealerships 6 hours of labour for the gear case change. That is down from 18. That is why most dealers try not to do them under warranty because they loose their butt on it expense wise.

WD

 

[rdrose]

case done and running

truck is back on the road it took me a week out in my back yard shop. bet i had 30-40 hrs, took me a long time because i never had worked on a diesel motor before and had to barrow a barring tool from case dealer,also had to read alot because i had no idea what i was doing,went well had to take everthing off the front but the air cond, wish i would of know about locking the pump in place but i didn't so i had to time the motor i thinks its retarded a little but have to wait and get the tools to check timing to see where it is. it doesn't pull as had and i don't have the smoke i did before but at least she goes.

 

[M Barnett]

Glad your on the road again. Sure am sorry you couldn't get the jig before it let go.

Michael

 

[rdrose]

jig

i still would like to get the jig have some friends with trucks that need it. sure would hate for this to happen to someone else. please let me know if the jig is coming to fla soon or am i on the list still? could sure have a party at my place and let the trucks come there.

 

[M Barnett]

I sent you an email

Michael

 

[BillGotthelf]

Hey Barnett I'm 3 miles from RDROSE and I watched him KDP it. He's not kidding about a Jig party-either his house or mine. I DO NOT want to go through what he did-I'd pay somebody first.