How do you feel about the "Assault Weapons Ban" sunsetting?

[TKilgore]

I believe it also lifted the 10 round restriction on mag capacity. I'm glad its gone.



BTW, A box knife turns out to be more of an assault weapon than my rifle (which has not killed anyone)

 

[The patriot]

I was so happy, I had to go out a buy myself a present.



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H&K SL8-1

Maybe I'm wrong, but that looks like a "post ban" rifle to me.

Eric

 

[Boomer II]

Since criminals don't obey laws and less than 1% of Homeland Defense rifles were used in crimes, I'm glad it's gone. Oo.

 

[Rocket]

It is in post-ban configuration. Too bad you can't get an exact replica of the G36 (in semi auto of course).

 

[RustyJC]

Unless the NRA has an exceptionally strong and effective lobby in the next session of Congress, ya better git 'em while you can. Polls are being cited here in Texas (not exactly a liberal state) saying 80% of those interviewed want the law reinstated.



Rusty

 

[Boomer II]

I question that poll myself, must of taken it in Austin. The average person's ignorance about this topic is boundless, of course that's sKerry's target audience.

 

[RustyJC]

I question that poll myself, must of taken it in Austin.

Dunno. It was quoted as a statewide poll by KTRK-13 (the ABC affiliate) here in the Houston area.



Rusty

 

[MKoth]

It is in post-ban configuration. Too bad you can't get an exact replica of the G36 (in semi auto of course).

Actually, I have been looking for an SL-8 for a while, and they were showing this gun on TV as an "assault weapon" so I drove down and bought it for a decent price. I really don't mind that it is post-ban. But you can do a few conversions to use the g36 folding stock, forearm, and shoot ar-15 style hi-cap mags.

 

[Rocket]

Actually, I have been looking for an SL-8 for a while, and they were showing this gun on TV as an "assault weapon" so I drove down and bought it for a decent price. I really don't mind that it is post-ban. But you can do a few conversions to use the g36 folding stock, forearm, and shoot ar-15 style hi-cap mags.

A company in AZ (not the greatest Customer Service IMO)does has the conversion parts... I have a USC and thought about doing this my self. They made a nice conversion with grease gun mags and a UMP stock. Only problem is the folding stock has no provision to stay open or closed . I guess I'll wait to see if they improve upon their design.

 

[Fletcher]

I was so happy, I had to go out a buy myself a present.



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H&K SL8-1

“In the world of compromise, some men don't” H&K UMP

 

[MKoth]

I think a UMP, or a HK 91 is next on the list to get.

 

[SEmerson]

I am all for them to be legal. Freedom to bare arms comes to mind.

 

[Rocket]

I am all for them to be legal. Freedom to bare arms comes to mind.

And to bear them too J/K

 

[gonehuntingagain]

To respond to Hale on Wheels:



The ban was bad because it was based solely on the looks of the rifle, such as pistol grip, flash suppressor, bayonet lug. The magazine ban is also a feel good measure. For example, take a Remington 1100, put a pistol grip and a large magazine extension on it, and suddenly it is an illegal assault weapon too. The function of the firearm remains the same, only external features make it illegal.

How many people have been killed with a bayonet attached to the rifle? Some have said that it could be used to launch a rifle grenade, such as those that were launched in WWII from a M1 Garand. Not only is owning a grenade or a grenade launcher a felony, but these type of grenades do not work on an AR-15 anyway.

A flash suppressor is not to eliminate enough flash that the enemy cannot see it, but to not ruin the shooter's night vision. There is still flash that can be seen. BTW, the "A2 flash suppressor" is not really a flash supressor, but a compensator - as refered to by Marine Corps manuals, but was illegal under this ban.

The pistol grip was alleged to make it easier to wield the weapon one handed to spray bullets, and to reload faster. This is a farce - it is tough to hold a 7. 5 lb gun by the pistol grip to fire, and for fast reloading the hand is moved from the pistol grip to grab another magazine, thus holding the rifle by the hanguard.



As for the magazine capacity - the only time that I have heard of someone using a large quantity of ammo is when some nutjob goes "postal" and decides to take a few people down with them, which always seems to happen in a state that does not allow concealed weapons to be carried by law abiding citizens (another topic in itself). People use high capacity magazines extensively in competitions and while hunting varmints, as well as defending themselves.



People tend to say that the general public does not "need" these firearms, and that the second amendment refers to the state militia (A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. ) I submit that "free state" has NOTHING to do with a state (such as Washington, California, etc. ) but that it refers to a free state of being - free to live your life as you see fit. The national guard was not formed at this time (and not for many years) - thus the militia was, at the time the Constitution was written, believed to be pretty much every able bodied man (including teenagers). The general public needs these weapons for 2 reasons: Defending an attack on U. S. soil, and defending against tyranny.



Overall, there are conflicting studies as to whether the ban worked at all. The statistics are hard to determine correctly since the use of "assault weapons" as a term to try to track the type of firearm was difficult due to the changing of these features to comply with the law. For example, rifles named "AR15" were banned, so Colt renamed them to the "Match Competion H-Bar" and removed the bayonet lug and "flash suppressor" so the rifle is not an illegal assault weapon anymore and therefore not tracked as such.



And yes, many gun owners think that if you give them an inch, then they will take a mile - the original bill for the ban would have outlawed my hunting rifle since it is semi-auto and has a detachable magazine before the bill was reworked.

 

[KBennett]

As for the magazine capacity - the only time that I have heard of someone using a large quantity of ammo is when some nutjob goes "postal" and decides to take a few people down with them, which always seems to happen in a state that does not allow concealed weapons to be carried by law abiding citizens (another topic in itself). People use high capacity magazines extensively in competitions and while hunting varmints, as well as defending themselves.

Good points. I am sure the people that wrote the bill would freak at the thought of concealed carry.

 

[DEickhoff]

I agree with the ban being lifted. One other thing:



A militia according to the US Code is any able bodied man between the ages of 18 and 65. So that means any of you out there between those ages you are the militia that the framers of our constitution had in mind.



dawna

 

[Motofreak]

All I can add is that I am very happy to hear that the majority of Cummins owners also have the 2nd amendment close to their heart. Makes me proud. The smell of diesel and gunpowder. What a country!!

 

[ndurbin]

It doesn't matter one way or another to me wether they let the ban pass or not. It just opens the door for the next ban.



Just . 02

Nathan

 

[TSpecht]

This is why the fight for the 2nd Amendment rights we're supposed to have can't be stopped after this (relatively minor) victory. Is it a good thing that this ridiculous "feel-good" ban has expired? Yes absolutely, but people should continue calling their congress critters and make sure they understand that more ridiculous gun control crap will not make you happy, and that even certain existing regulations are ridiculous and should be scrapped for being based on emotion and not in fact...



If y'all couldn't tell I'm glad it's gone, and wish a few more of the laws would go the way of the dinosaur as well. .

 

[Bandit2]

REally true,Igot a good belly laugh out of what you wrote. Great!!!!