How hard is my sixgun on injectors

[DCarner]

I have a six gun and normally run it on level 3&4 nothing higher. How hard is this on the injectors. When I pull I turn it down to stock, as I don't have any trans mods. Just concerned about the longevity of my injectors. Thanks

 

[JDiepstra]

I can't answer your question exactly but can tell you that injectors are ruined by extra pressure, along with poorly filtered fuel. I don't know if the six gun adds pressure or not, but hopefully you do. If you are not adding pressure, I would not worry much.

 

[2 Ram Fam]

I had a six gun on my 04 from 10,000 mi. to about 60,000 when it broke. The six gun stopped working not the truck. It did add pressure,so now I'm looking for a non- pressure tuner with timing for better fuel mileage. Smarty?

 

[Red_Rattler]

Yes it does add pressure but on level 3-4 on the 6 gun my max rail pressure is about 22k. Not that bad at all but, up on level 6 I can hit 28k no problem... These number are with the Smarty Revo as well with mild rail pressure so they might be alil higher that just the 6 gun alone... .

 

[TCDiesel]

The Six-Gun Tuner By itself will not run Max pressure any higher than 25K, it will only add pressure according to demand. . One way of increasing injector life is to upgrade the rail, also as mention earlier filtration cannot be over emphasized.

 

[Bob4x4]

How does increasing rail volume increase injector life ?

 

[TCDiesel]

If you were to understand the way the CP3 Produces the Pressure you would understand the waves and pulse it creates, that when the demand is greater than supply its very damaging to components. . BOB 4x4 why did Bosch find it necessary to create so many deflections and restrictions in the 6. 7 Rail if the 5. 9 rail was perfect. If you cannot post the answer I will.

 

[JDiepstra]

If you were to understand the way the CP3 Produces the Pressure you would understand the waves and pulse it creates, that when the demand is greater than supply its very damaging to components. . BOB 4x4 why did Bosch find it necessary to create so many deflections and restrictions in the 6. 7 Rail if the 5. 9 rail was perfect. If you cannot post the answer I will.

OOOOHHHH SNAP! So far I have found BOB4x4 to be able to answer pretty much any question. This outta be good! Now where are those smileys drinking coffee or eating popcorn? Whoops, wrong forum!

 

[Bob4x4]

OOOOHHHH SNAP! So far I have found BOB4x4 to be able to answer pretty much any question. This outta be good! Now where are those smileys drinking coffee or eating popcorn? Whoops, wrong forum!

:-laf... ... ... .....



Bob

 

[Bob4x4]

The 6. 7 also uses higher psi and the injector material has also been upgraded.

It's nice to see you use every op to tout your product w/out any supporting data.

Now where is the popcorn... ... ... ..... or just send one of your rails for me to play with



Bob

 

[TCDiesel]

The 6. 7 also uses higher psi and the injector material has also been upgraded.

It's nice to see you use every op to tout your product w/out any supporting data.

Now where is the popcorn... ... ... ..... or just send one of your rails for me to play with



Bob

Who said anything about 6. 7 Injector. Say on topic or answer the question. . you won't find the answer in a Popcorn Bag/Bowl? What More support Can I offer? It comes with a life time buyback. If You want the Rail Buy one Just Like all the other Paying Vendors and Customers... . Or find someone to Mod yours,You will like the results. . Please let's say on Topic Or start a New Thread.

 

[Red_Rattler]

So back on topic then, how does the modded rail help the injectors? What else does it benefit?

 

[TCDiesel]

First the Injection system on 3gen is NOT dependant on RPMs, The CP3 has 3 plunger type pistons that rotate at about have engine speed, So lets say that at 800 that means 400 at the CP3, let's demand more volume at that RPM speed than the CP3(s) can produce, sense the Pump is a piston type it will create waves or a pulse that the farther apart the more damaging they become ( more manipulations the more damaging),its call the hammering effect, also the injectors have a small ball that open and close on demand, when the waves or pulse Don't concise with this action it beats the body to death,Modded rail(s) will help to keep the waves at a minimum or close together. Their is no downside to properly modded rail(s) all owners will experience some type of performance increase.

 

[Tinman]

TWest: That's very interesting. How do twin CPs work. Are they timed to "cancel" out the pulse waves. Would follow from what you say that long duration and/or large injectors (which are known to drop rail pressure) would be at least as hard on injectors as increased pressure??

 

[TCDiesel]

Yep... I like duals for many reasons, but don't agree with that any setup is OK, I think John is working on a super single.

 

[DCarner]

Didn't know I was gonna start a ******* match... . it looks like everyone needs to stay on topic.

 

[firemansdiesel]

I have a six gun and normally run it on level 3&4 nothing higher. How hard is this on the injectors. When I pull I turn it down to stock, as I don't have any trans mods. Just concerned about the longevity of my injectors. Thanks

I had the Six Gun w/ PDA for my truck awhile back. I took it off for that reason of delivering pressure as part of the power. I know they say it delivers within safe levels, but did not want to chance it (bad injector).



I do have to say. I had Superchips, Edge Juice w/ Attitude & Smarty Jr on my truck also. Banks Six Gun was the smoothest out of all of them. Even though Banks power was felt on the upper band instead of low end power like the otheers. The PDA is a slick monitor (hands down the best on the market).



I know F-1 Injectors are made to withstand pressure boxes, but does not mean they are bullet proof either (bad fuel and/or unfiltered (2 micron filter) fuel can cause damage over time also). Flux 1's run $1,100 (40hp) if you have the coin and stay w/ a pressure type tuner.



I am going mechanical for power now instead of using tuner/programmers to make a little more hp. A little more $$, but well worth it!!Oo.

 

[EDankievitch]

This pulse wave could this cause the jumper lines to crack? I had the number 4 jumper fail this past March with 73,000 miles on the truck. Would this mod fuel rail prevent this from happning again?





2005 ram quad cab 6 speed all stock except for over size tires

 

[Bob4x4]

The injection lines are cracking in that position after the clamping bracket has come loose.



I am not sure what have of engine rpm is or where " Don't concise " fits in



Silly me :-laf



Bob

 

[jjdiesel]

The injection lines are cracking in that position after the clamping bracket has come loose.



I am not sure what have of engine rpm is or where " Don't concise " fits in



Silly me :-laf



Bob

I've been working on that "don't concise" one myself... . what's wrong with us?