Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) How many cranks does it take your truck to fire?

[Coalsmoke]

My uncle was over with his 1'st gen and the thing would crank half a turn and be running Mine takes 3 or so cranks usually, unless it is really warm, then sometimes less. What about you guys? Is this just a 2nd gen thing or is my truck a little slow on the start?

 

[ndurbin]

Mine takes about the same amount of time.

 

[HPagel]

No crank ... it just fires... always has. They tell me the 3rd gens. have to crank a little. My idle is a little high and could be the reason.

 

[tfrane]

Mine takes about the same as yours, but my son 92 starts immediately, i mean quick.

Tim

 

[wcjp]

My 96' takes about half a crank. It used to 2 or 3 cranks. I replaced both fuel supply/return. This helped the problem. I then replaced the starter contacts and the preheater to lift pump soft line. The lift pump soft line made the greatest change.

 

[Got Smoke?]

Originally posted by HPagel

No crank ... it just fires... always has. They tell me the 3rd gens. have to crank a little. My idle is a little high and could be the reason.

My truck used to take forever to crank! Most times I had to blip the throttle to even get it to catch. The problem was my idle was too low. 500-600RPM warm 400RPM cold.



Bumped it up and now it sits on 1000RPM, actually its a little to high cause now the idle tries to hang @ 1500RPM when I clutch it coming to a stop. Could stand to be turned back down a little, but it starts after 1/2 a crank now!Oo.

 

[Coalsmoke]

yeah my idle is around the 500 mark but I kind of like it low.

 

[rrausch]

Mine always starts on the first crank, but my idle is set too low, but I always give it a little pedal while starting.

 

[kboettcher]

Mines a 24v but it always fires right off... . no cranking. I even have trouble doing the starter bump when I want to.

 

[Joe G.]

Rotary pumps always start quick. The P7100 seems to need to get the slack out of the governor or something. Mine always starts right away because I use a little pedal.

 

[y-knot]

Mine fires more like your uncle's truck, less then a full turn. It has been like that since new. Only times it takes more is after a fuel filter change.

 

[crabman]

1/2 crank or less on mine and has always been a quick starter. If it doesn't start within 1-2 cranks, I figure there is something wrong.

I agree with wcjp, change the soft fuel lines with USCG approved fuel lines

(which are thicker than regular ones) and you will be .

crabman

 

[Coalsmoke]

Am I putting in soft fuel lines or replacing soft fuel lines with better one?

Sounds like something I should definitely look into.

 

[JJW_ND]

Higher idle = Fast starts

Assuming fuel lines and all mechanical related stuff is operating normal, starting time it totally based on idle rpm.



12V trucks will start instantly just as good as the older 1st.



I bet you will notice far more Auto trucks starting with more cranking the manual trucks. Auto trucks seem to run with lower idle.



While dodge says somewhere between 750 - 850, that is pretty tough to determine with our tachometers.



Setting the idle is pretty easy. It costs nothing (do it yourself). Most everyone will notice quicker starting to the point of being instant with higher idle rpms. I keep mine just below the 1K mark. Again, us manual trans trucks can run with higher idle, gets to be a pain with auto trucks at stop signs.



It higher idle does not help starting, I would start checking fuel lines, relays, and filters.



jjw

ND

 

[JGheen]

Thats an odd deal, when I installed my 3gsk, I had to adjust my idle down a bit as well as back out one of the gov. spring locking nuts and it idles great now, under the 1K ticker @ about 875-900. But, my starting has taken longer to fire up unless I give the engine a bit of throttle, then it starts right up. How would you know if it was your fuel lines that are causing the hard starting issues?? Which lines are recommended to be replaced? I am changing my fuel filter for the first time since I installed the GSK, so we'll see how much of a difference that makes, but for the past 3,000 miles since the GSK bomb it has taken a few extra cranks to get it fired, again unless I give it some pedal and it fires right up in half a second of cranking.

 

[Rams-n-Hogs]

Mine starts on the 2nd or 3rd crank, unless I touch the throttle. Then it starts instantly.



Jim

 

[JLEONARD]

Usually fires on the first or second compression... . unless it's really cold... like below 15 degrees F or so... then it may take a full revolution... . even if I use the grids. That's good as I have only one battery

Idles at about 750.

I think some of the newer trucks need to have the crank sensor pick up the revs and feed to the computer before they start. That takes a couple of revs.

Jay

 

[Neibe]

Tap the throttle as you fire the key over mine fires right up 1/4 turn maybe that's why I still have the original batteries also.

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

My 12v would take your uncle's proverbial half turn and clatter clatter purrrr clatter - how sweet



When I got my 02 24v I went to start the new truck and tried and tried. Finally, went and told the salesman to start it. it took about 2-3 seconds of cranking to start it thereafter. Noticably longer then the 12v holy grail.



My 04 start almost as good as my 12v. No complaints.

 

[Deezul1]

Mine takes maybe a 1/2 turn but the idle is at 750-800. Light throttle may make it quicker.