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How many of you guys live with chronic pain

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How many of you live with chronic pain? I didn't ask how many of you live WITH a chronic pain.

Seriously, do you have something that governs you and what you do?

I have a degenerated disc problem in my low back and it is a bi+ch. I had surgery on it 12 years ago and it was good for awhile but loading UPS trucks for a living has taken its toll on it. I

was a dynamo and now I feel like a dead battery!!

Chris
 
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Motorhead, Same problem here. Also arthritis. It affects hands and shoulders. Use many pain killers but few seem to help much. I just learn to live with it. :D
 
Motorhead,

Same situation here. I have 3 slipped discs...



What I really hate is that sometimes I have to ask the help of my wife to get into the socks and shoes... :{



Marco
 
I'm only 25 and my knees are on thier way out (weather changes suck and can't negotiate stairs very well anymore), courtesy of the United States Marine Corps.
 
Ruptured a disk in my back about 10 years ago (at the age of 24) and last winter I tore my PCL in my left knee. The back only bothers me when I do something stupid, like lift too much or lift stuff incorrectly. Once I do that I have two weeks or more of pain to suffer through.

The knee does not bother me at all right now, but I am betting that in 10 years it is going to hurt like hell.
 
I know what yall are talking about. I been injured many many times. If I knew I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself. At a very old age of 34 yrs, I have crushed disks, spin fusing itself together because of accidents, busted left hip and a head injury that gives me terrible headachs. I now have arthritis in my spine, both hips, hands, and sholders.



Pain meds. never helped at all so I just live with it. Since the age of 27 I do not know what being pain free is or what sleeping more than 4 hours of sleep a night is like.
 
Knee problems for me. ACL reconstruction on the left one and general abuse to both - chrondomalagia & weighing 250# doesn't help..... I figure I'm a candidate for knee replacement surgery before 50 - I'm 33. Fortunately, enough Advil still works for me.



After reading about some of you I think I'm pretty well off. No offense intended.



Brian
 
A friend takes one of those condrotin complexes for his torn up knee. Says it helps. Just gives me more gas. Back pain is exacerbated by to much gut and/or weak stomach muscles. Diet is important too. Focus on the good and bad days and what you have been eating. If you sense something has bothered you, eat it again and see what happens. Then stay away from it if need be.
 
lgibson - man, you sound like me!! At 33 I just had shoulder surgery and am recovering from it now (can't wait for that first pain free day, haven't had one in about 3 months right now). I too abused my body WAY too much when I was young and didn't fully think out the ramifications down the road (shoulder surgery was probably caused from a shoulder dislocation 14 years ago when road racing where I never saw a doctor about it).



Now you guys are probably going to think I'm crazy for this but I'm just telling you what I went through. I had a bad road racing accident in 1989 where I broke my back in 3 places (broke the trasnverse prosthes (sp?) off of L4, 5, and 6), cracked my skull from my right ear to the base of my skull, damaged the 5th, 6th and 8th nerves in my head (feeling on the right half of the skull, hearing in the right ear, and control of the outward movement of the right eye).



My neurosurgeon wanted to do back surgery and pull the pieces of the spine out of my back. He said there was a chance that something could hit them just right down the road and drive them into my spine and I'd be paralyzed. He told me that there was a 74% chance of success for the surgery. I asked him what 26% chance failure meant and he said that I'd be paralyzed. Now, call me a gambling man but I felt that the chances of something hitting those bones JUST right was WAAAAY less than 26% so I refused the surgery. He told me I'd have back pain the rest of my life and I'd never be able to lift more than 40 lbs.



I was on Percoseth (sp?) for over a year because the pain was so bad, couldn't get out of bed some days. (Here's where it starts to get wierd and you guys are gonna call me a flake!) I had a friend that was majoring in laying on of hands at Stanford University. I was in so much pain I was willing to try anything. I asked her to come over and see what she could do. She talked with me (she was at the track the day of the accident, btw - camping with me) and put her hands over my back. I felt heat and my back felt better. It soon hurt again but that's not the point. I talked with her and asked her to teach me how to meditate because she felt I could control the pain that way. I worked with her for a while and learned to meditate (took me about a year to get to a point where I was truly thinking of nothing) and eventually learned to control the pain through meditation.



After I got off the drugs completely and was able to meditate away the pain when it occured I started going to the gym regularly (like 4 hrs a day, 5 days a week) and started building myself up. After 3 years I was able to get to where I was doing 220 lb bent over rows and since that time I have had absolutely no back problems. I also had no more chronic pain problems so I let the meditation go (although I sometimes wish I hadn't) but I know if the time comes I can do it again.



Now, so you don't think I'm a total crack pot here's what I believe happened. I wanted to feel relief sooooo bad that I was willing to believe that she could help me. I also know that the only way you feel pain is that your mind tells you you're feeling pain. As with anything in our bodies if we try hard enough we can train it. I think that I was able to turn off the pain signals from my back through meditation which enabled me to be able to strengthen other muscles around the damaged area to take up the slack of the damaged area.



This is not an easy thing to believe or to do. I meditated for an hour a day EVERY day for about five years and spent 4 hrs a day in the gym 5 days a week for 3 years. Definately a significant investment in time. All I can say is that it did help me and I've had a recovery that I was told was impossible and was able to solve the chronic pain issue. I really believe that it takes faith to make this work. I am atheist, btw so I'm not talking religious faith. I was just in a place that was so bad and was in so much pain that I was willing to try anything. I just thank my lucky stars that Jan was there to get me started!



-Steve
 
pass the cheese to go with my whine.



Sinus surgery 4 times :{ THIS IS PAIN!!!!!

sloppy fitting cuff and rotor,

hamburger back caused by a cut happy "surgeon" ( thanks "Dr" Marc Latellier of Mesa Az) at L5-S1, 10 times worse post surgery in 1991. Daily pain. It is helped by Welbutrin, 300mg.

Welbutrin is prescribed as a weight loss pill in Europe, a anti-depressant in USA with an undocumented pain reduction effect. You will have to be depressed or claim symptoms of depression to get it prescribed ( as pointed out by my current Dr ;) )
 
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A long list of car, bike and farm accidents and a lot of really stupid stunts when I was young, dumb and full of come plus the congenital back problems from my dads side has made aging just like all the stories you hear. Some surgeries have helped. If you're still young - TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF! My back and knees are better than a weatherman! I like cold but I've figured out that keeping warm is the best preventive medicine for me. Proper lifting and not abusing the old bones is equally important. Craig
 
Both knees, bad disk in back that goes whenever I fart, sneeze or cough. Shoulder from a pinched nerve in my neck, Sore wrist when weather gets damp from a break I had this summer (should have left them put some hardware in it)



Chris
 
not as bad as some of you, but my neck has hurt almost every day for the past couple of years (probably need a back/neck alignment). i often times get headaches from it. i also wore my left knee down pretty good from driving my mom's ford ranger

-manual- that she had before. now i have my auto, but it still hurts now and then. (and i'm not even half of some your ages:eek: ) the occasional aches in the fingers/wrists probably from drumming too for most of my life...
 
Wow, my pains dont seem too bad after reading some of your problems here.

I have 2 slipped discs. I forget which numbers, theyre low in the back.

Kidney stones. :eek:

Both of my shoulders are dislocated.

And I get chronic headaches.

I can predict weather changes, so I guess I'm getting arthritis too. :(

I'm only 38. Do you think I can make it to retirement? This is a question I often ask my Doctor.



Eric
 
I am 68 years and been banged around a little.

About 10 years ago, both shoulders had gotten so bad that I could not lift my arms above shoulder level. Orthopedic Docs said surgery was my only route. They cut on left one first and the recovery was so slow and the pain so disagreable that I was reluctant to let them do the other.

My wife is a really well informed nutrition and supplement buff; she asked me to try glucosamine with chondroitin. I was real skeptical, but my arms were really getting to the point where I was limited, so tried it.

I went double the recomended dose for one month then went to the recomended dose. After about three months, I was completely free of any shoulder pain and had full movement----in both the one with and the one with out surgery. Wish I had never let them cut on me at all.

I know this sort of thing does not work for all joint problems, but for some it is really good. You can get the stuff at WalMart or many other outlets. Also, she tells me that now many nutrition people say the chondroitin portions is probably not really helpfull, that it is the glucosamine that repairs damaged joint in some cases.



Second item is that for the past 20 years I have had to deal with migraine headaches. About a year ago, she led me to "L-5-hydroxytrytophan" (commonly called 5-HTP). In about 3 months, the improvement in the headaches was dramatic; down from headaches 3 to 5 days a week to about 2 o 3 per month.

Again, this may not work for everyone, but these two things have really restored my quality of life.



Vaughn
 
When I was 15 I temporarily paralyzed myself (an hour or so) courtesy of pulling up buckbush from our Alfalfa field. Now my Pop had taught me how to lift, but it just didn't occur to me that pulling a dern bush was lifting. I clearly remember an inner voice telling me, "Robert... that's enough... " But I said, "Awww I can get it. " and I gave one mighty heave and heard my lumbar vertibrae crack! I couldn't straighten up. I walked back to the house bent over and lay in the grass for awhile. After about an hour I could straighten up, but my back was bad screwed up. I went though another 15 years of my back "going out" about 2-3 times a year before I got some bodywork done on my back. I had "Hellerwork" bodywork done on my back when I was 32, I am 55 now and the pain HAS NEVER COME BACK!



Now I have also cracked an elbow condyle (round end of the elbow) and I have broken an ankle. I also do a LOT of work with my hands. About 4 years ago I started having moderate joint pain (the kind that stops you) and I though I might have to change careers, but a buddy of mine turned me on to... MSM! And Glucosamine!



MSM is a sulfer derivative, so if you are alergic to sulfer don't take it. It is really a miracle substance, and it goes to work immediately. I had had finger joint pain every day for several months, and it stopped THE DAY I started taking MSM. The Glucosamine I take for insurance, as it is supposed to stop joints from disintegrating and even help joint cartilage grow back.



Arthritis can be greatly helped by taking MSM. I buy the powder form and mix it in water. All the big drugstores and health food stores sell it.



If you have joint pain give MSM a try!
 
Chronic pain...

My chronic pain is just like many others, bad knee, bad back and a friggin' teenage boy who knows everything. Relieved alot of pain when I got rid of my FordOo. Oo.



Sam
 
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