How this for a lift kit???

[Davey]

Seeing as I won't spend 10 grand for a kelderman and no one has a 8" lift per say, I'm thinking Kore coils, pro comp 5" spring spacers and a set of arms and traction bars from these fella's. http://www.dtprofab.com/SUPER-I.htm Should make for a fully functional tall lift.

Lets hear your thoughts on this.

Dave

 

[RMarkey]

Personally I'm not a big fan of the coil spacers, but is a cheap way to get up there. I just went with the skyjacker 5in system, not to pricy, works well. I thought they had an 8in or similar, maybe I'm wrong though, I just looked far enough to run 37's and I was happy.

 

[IC Smoke]

Coil over spaces are illegale here in Michigan, check with your state to see what your able to do.



Overall it looks like a good setup.



Ian

 

[PHeadings]

How's about a 10" lift.

 

[PHeadings]

Or if you have the balls, go for the 12"

 

[PHeadings]

They make a 10" kit for the stright axle. http://www.fullthrottlesuspension.com/index.htm

 

[Spooled-up]

Looks like the DT arms are for the 2nd gen trucks only. Maybe they could be modified? The guys at KORE and DRC are going to politely suggest that you don't make such modifications to their systems! 5" spring spacers don't sound like a safe thing to me.

 

[CIverson]

Generally any spacer over 3" is considered unsafe by most, not to mention their illegality in some states.



You would have to figure out a way to mount those arms to the frame, which you are not supposed to weld to, and not to mention it is pretty thin, and a small mount would probably not hold up well.



You could buy the kelderman long arm kit, they have sold it seperately in the past, then use a skyjacker 5" coil and a 3" spacer, that would be "somewhat" better.



There was a nice kit I saw before that someone made, it was posted on the board I believe, and was around 10", and used long arms. Try searching for it.

 

[JCleary]

5" Spacers?



Are the manufacturers nuts? How lame is that? What kind of functionality does that add to your truck? That's got to be unsafe. I wouldn't do it.



At least with the Kelderman system you have some advantages, like adjustable ride height, and with the full throttle kit you get new coils and a new rear spring pack.



You're not driving a '85 Chevy that's worth $5k. Your $40k Cummins turbodiesel deserves more than some lame cheap lift that puts your truck a foot higher in the air.

 

[CIverson]

Found this, no info on the lift though.

http://www.dunksperformance.com/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=62&





Not to rag on the kelderman lift, I had it in front for awhile and it rode great (in the 4" lift flavor) but it uses large fabricated spacers too, didn't really like that, which is one of the reasons I eventually went to the kore kit.

 

[EBottema]

Cali-600

That 12 inch lift on that red dodge is a joke, it is 2wd come on. I guess it is true what they say, 2 wheel drives eat more bush...



Davey- I would not use that big of coil spacers. You don't need a kore setup but if you going to be cheap about the lift, don't do it at all. You alteast need lifted springs, and new rear springs made... . Otherwise your wasting time.

Don't buy any products from DT pro fab, they have terrible customer service and their owners is rude when their product does not fit. . long story, see the thread, DT track bar may be dangerous in the 2nd gen forum...

 

[Nate]

Fender trimming is better than lifting it to the clouds... keep that in mind. The top of the tire shouldn't be lower than the bottom of the truck. :-laf

 

[MG05CTD]

I saw a white 3500 out by my house the other day with a superlift 6" lift and 38's. Looked real sharp, no coil spacers either. He said the kit was around 1500 bucks.

 

[Davey]

Cali-600

but if you going to be cheap about the lift, don't do it at all. You alteast need lifted springs, and new rear springs made... . Otherwise your wasting time.

What part of my lift combo is cheap? The Kore isn't cheap, the DT kit isn't frugal either.

I haven't fully decided on full coil lift(custom coils by National Spring) or to the previously mentioned set-up.



"Looks like the DT arms are for the 2nd gen trucks only. Maybe they could be modified?"



They are made for 3rd gens as well.





I hope I didn't leave to assumption that the rear kore was all I was doing in the back end. Wasn't actually planning on using anything Kore but the coils. I will be doing a block/leaf combo as the DT kit comes with traction bars to negate the twisting due to the blocks.

 

[crymepayz]

If you check out full throttle suspension they will sell you up to a ten inch spring. You have a lot more work ahead then you think. Any lift over 5 inches is going to need a trans drop and or a new front driveline made, around $800 for a high angle cv setup. I personaly have a fabtech 5 inch system and love the way it rides. I also used a daystar front leveling kit to bring total lift to seven inches. Total cost on kit with spacerswas around $900 bucks. Have to use a 4 inch block in rear.

 

[EBottema]

DAvey-



Sorry i didn't read your post clearly...

Kore coils sound good. Don't go with spacers that is half arse, and can be dangerous.

Most DT stuff is junk, their 2nd gen track bar mounting bracket is underbuilt. Their 2nd gen upper and lower links are nice. Those SuperI bars look decent but not good for a daily driver. You will get lots of vibration from those heim joints. Stick with bushings unless you are having a full race truck... .



I prefer not buying anything from DT anymore, they want to sell a product, but their customer service is terrible and the owner has a major attitude with myself and other customers who have called with problems that I know.



Using traction bars is like using a bandaid on a cut. You will lessen the problem but for a little more money you can do it the right way with no blocks. I am very happy with my full new spring back, no blocks. The extra overloads make hauling fun. I would go with kore coils, some kore arms, and a full spring pack made by a good local shop or even national. These traction bars, heim joints and bs unless you have a race truck...

 

[JHardwick]

You would have to figure out a way to mount those arms to the frame, which you are not supposed to weld to.

Is this urban legend still roaming the streets of Dodge City?

 

[CIverson]

Is this urban legend still roaming the streets of Dodge City?

Ok, so I know that you can weld to it, but it needs to be done properly, and then there is this possibility if it gets screwed up



NOTE: DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION DOES NOT RECOMMEND ANY MODIFICATIONS OR ALTERATIONS TO THE FRAME ASSEMBLY. MODIFICATIONS OR ALTERATIONS (I. E. , HOLE DRILLING WELDING, ETC. ) TO THE FRAME ASSEMBLY ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PERSONS PERFORMING THESE MODIFICATIONS OR ALTERATIONS. ANYONE ALTERING THE FRAME MUST ASSURE COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ASSEMBLY, PERFORMANCE RELIABILITY AND COMPLIANCE OF APPLICABLE FMSS REQUIREMENTS.

 

[EBottema]

The only legend is that the hydroform frame is a good thing. . In reality, it is JuNk!

 

[JHardwick]

Ok, so I know that you can weld to it, but it needs to be done properly, and then there is this possibility if it gets screwed up



NOTE: DAIMLERCHRYSLER CORPORATION DOES NOT RECOMMEND ANY MODIFICATIONS OR ALTERATIONS TO THE FRAME ASSEMBLY. MODIFICATIONS OR ALTERATIONS (I. E. , HOLE DRILLING WELDING, ETC. ) TO THE FRAME ASSEMBLY ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PERSONS PERFORMING THESE MODIFICATIONS OR ALTERATIONS. ANYONE ALTERING THE FRAME MUST ASSURE COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ASSEMBLY, PERFORMANCE RELIABILITY AND COMPLIANCE OF APPLICABLE FMSS REQUIREMENTS.

When has DaimlerChrysler or anybody else not distanced themselves from aftermarket frame and/or suspension modifications?

The only legend is that the hydroform frame is a good thing. . In reality, it is JuNk!

Go back to yer hole