howes lubricator

[snowmizer]

bought a half gallon of howes lubricator. its the diesel treat, conditioner &anti gel. any body run this stuff , and is it any good. usually run ps but dont notice much difference with it. also can anybody refer me to the article just done not to long ago about additives ,and how good they were.

 

[roperteacher]

If you go to Centurion Lubricants Oil Fortifier Synthetic Grease Block Grease and click on the link for their XPD formula, it has the link to the study. I just ordered some XPD today to try out. The 2 stroke oil is working good for me, but the Opti Lube is even better according to the study...

 

[Flinty]

I use Howes. Have used it before and after the introduction of ULSD. I have noticed no difference with the exception of a little better mileage, not enough to mention, really. The main reason I run it is because of the no gel guarantee as lubrication is not as critical with the p7100 pump. In the winter, it's not uncommon for me to leave the Flathead Valley in high 20's and end up on the East side of the Continental Divide in temperatures well into -20. My fuel has never gelled.

 

[Buffalo]

A member of Dieselplace.com (a Duramax web site) named "Spicer" did a fuel additive test a short while ago. I believe they were looking for added lubricity to 'fortify' ULSD fuel.



Interestingly, the best additive, by far, was soy based biodiesel (B-100) diluted to a 2% ratio. The "Bio" also acts like a fuel. If you add a gallon of Bio, it's also like adding a gallon of fuel. The byproduct of the "Bio" is that it lubes the diesel fuel to a safe level.



Some of the 'popular' over the counter additives turned out to be not as good as many of us believed. In fact, some left the diesel fuel in worse shape than if you had not additized it, at all.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[snowmizer]

can anyone direct me to the article that tdr did on the additives and how they did or didnt help with lubrication ?

 

[snowmizer]

sorry , that was on dieselplace.com... ..... thanks buffalo

 

[DeezelDood]

Here's a text version.

 

[Heavyweight]

Here is the original thread for the Lubricity Study...



Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place

4)Opti-Lube Summer Blend

Multi-purpose

demulsifier

HFRR 447, 189 micron improvement

3000:1 ratio

1. 11 oz/tank

$0. 68/tank

If this is true, this is some "GOOD STUFF"!@!@

 

[Heavyweight]

THE RESULTS:



These results are listed in the order of performance in the HFRR test. The baseline fuel used in every test started at an HFRR score of 636. The score shown is the tested HFRR score of the baseline fuel/additive blend.

Also included is the wear scar improvement provided by the additive as well as other claimed benefits of the additive. Each additive is also categorized as a Multi-purpose additive, Multi-purpose + anti-gel, Lubricity only, non-conventional, or as an additive capable of treating both gasoline and diesel fuel.

As a convenience to the reader there is also information on price per treated tank of diesel fuel (using a 26 gallon tank), and dosage per 26 gallon tank provided as “ounces of additive per 26 gallon tank”.



In Order Of Performance:



1) 2% REG SoyPower biodiesel

HFRR 221, 415 micron improvement.

50:1 ratio of baseline fuel to 100% biodiesel

66. 56 oz. of 100% biodiesel per 26 gallons of diesel fuel

Price: market value



2)Opti-Lube XPD

Multi-purpose + anti-gel

cetane improver, demulsifier

HFRR 317, 319 micron improvement.

256:1 ratio

13 oz/tank

$4. 35/tank



3)FPPF RV, Bus, SUV Diesel/Gas fuel treatment

Gas and Diesel

cetane improver, emulsifier

HFRR 439, 197 micron improvement

640:1 ratio

5. 2 oz/tank

$2. 60/tank



4)Opti-Lube Summer Blend

Multi-purpose

demulsifier

HFRR 447, 189 micron improvement

3000:1 ratio

1. 11 oz/tank

$0. 68/tank



5)Opti-Lube Winter Blend

Muti-purpose + anti-gel

cetane improver

HFRR 461, 175 micron improvement

512:1 ratio

6. 5 oz/tank

$3. 65/tank



6)Schaeffer Diesel Treat 2000

Multi-purpose + anti-gel

cetane improver, emulsifier, bio-diesel compatible

HFRR 470, 166 micron improvement

1000:1 ratio

3. 32 oz/tank

$1. 87/tank



7)Super Tech Outboard 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil

Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 or newer systems)

HFRR 474, 162 micron improvement

200:1 ratio

16. 64 oz/tank

$1. 09/tank



8)Stanadyne Lubricity Formula

Lubricity Only

demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free

HFRR 479, 157 micron improvement

1000:1 ratio

3. 32 oz/tank

$1. 00/tank



9)Amsoil Diesel Concentrate

Multi-purpose

demulsifier, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free

HFRR 488, 148 micron improvement

640:1 ratio

5. 2 oz/tank

$2. 16/tank



10)Power Service Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost

Multi-purpose

Cetane improver, bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free

HFRR 575, 61 micron improvement

400:1 ratio

8. 32 oz/tank

$1. 58/tank



11)Howe’s Meaner Power Kleaner

Multi-purpose

Alcohol free

HFRR 586, 50 micron improvement

1000:1 ratio

3. 32 oz/tank

$1. 36/tank



12)Stanadyne Performance Formula

Multi-purpose + anti-gel

cetane improver, demulsifier, 5% bio-diesel compatible, alcohol free

HFRR 603, 33 micron improvement

480:1 ratio

6. 9 oz/tank

$4. 35/tank



13)Used Motor Oil, Shell Rotella T 15w40, 5,000 miles used.

Unconventional (Not ULSD compliant, may damage systems)

HFRR 634, 2 micron improvement

200:1 ratio

16. 64 oz/tank

price: market value



14)Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant

Gas or diesel

HFRR 641, 5 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)

427:1 ratio

7. 8 oz/tank

$2. 65/tank



15)B1000 Diesel Fuel Conditioner by Milligan Biotech

Multi-purpose, canola oil based additive

HFRR 644, 8 microns worse than baseline (statistically insignificant change)

1000:1 ratio

3. 32 oz/tank

$2. 67/tank



16)FPPF Lubricity Plus Fuel Power

Multi-purpose + anti-gel

Emulsifier, alcohol free

HFRR 675, 39 microns worse than baseline fuel

1000:1 ratio

3. 32 oz/tank

$1. 12/tank



17)Marvel Mystery Oil

Gas, oil and Diesel fuel additive (NOT ULSD compliant, may damage 2007 and newer systems)

HFRR 678, 42 microns worse than baseline fuel.

320:1 ratio

10. 4 oz/tank

$3. 22/tank



18)ValvTect Diesel Guard Heavy Duty/Marine Diesel Fuel Additive

Multi-purpose

Cetane improver, emulsifier, alcohol free

HFRR 696, 60 microns worse than baseline fuel

1000:1 ratio

3. 32 oz/tank

$2. 38/tank



19)Primrose Power Blend 2003

Multi-purpose

Cetane boost, bio-diesel compatible, emulsifier

HFRR 711, 75 microns worse than baseline

1066:1 ratio

3. 12 oz/tank

$1. 39/tank

 

[steved]

I've run Howe's... never really did anything. I know for fact it doesn't protect very cold with the ULSD. I had waxing at around 0*F last winter running Howe's.

steved

 

[roperteacher]

I just ordered some of the SUMMER BLEND Opti lube. I will have it by weeks end so I will let everyone know how it works in my truck. . It's 20. 00 for a QUART but that QUART treats over 700 gallons of FUEL!!!!

 

[steved]

I just ordered some of the SUMMER BLEND Opti lube. I will have it by weeks end so I will let everyone know how it works in my truck. . It's 20. 00 for a QUART but that QUART treats over 700 gallons of FUEL!!!!

Wasn't the Opti-Lube XPD the all-season formula??



steved

 

[roperteacher]

Yes, Opti Lube XPD is the all season, But they also make a winter and a summer blend. The XPD was #2 in the test but is VERY EXPENSIVE... One quart only lasts 2 tanks... (6. 00 per tank)... The Summer blend is ONE QUART lasts over 700 gallons. Works out to be 68 cents per tank! I am going to try it! I live in Sunny So Cal so winter is not an issue.

 

[AABEN]

Yes have ran it in my 2500D . Have over 600;000 miles still have the same fuel pump. Verry good by.

 

[AABEN]

Steve i thank you did not use as the bottle says. Thay will pay the tow and to get it to run if it freeze up. Read the bottle

 

[snowmizer]

it does say that on the bottle, if it gels up they'll pay for the tow. are you sure you had enough in their. i bought the howes from my buds shop ( $ 13 for the 1/2 gallon) , i do alot of snowmobiling in the winter in VT, i'll try it but it isnt the same as what was tested, and not rated the greatest , maybe i'll mix it with some wallmart 2 stroke oil & ps.

 

[steved]

Sorry guys, it was run as directed... and the "pay the tow" only applies if you buy a CASE.

I had the filter wax at around 0*F... plain and simple. If it wasn't for the extra umph of the FASS, I'd been dead in the water.

I run a auxiliary tank that is 22 gallons... I add the recommended dose/22 gallons (sorry, I can't remember the dosage rate... it was last winter)... then dump that tank into the main tank. IIRC, I had even double the dose because it was going to be that cold...

The fact is, it SHOULDN'T have even come close to gelling with straight #2... let alone with the Howe's.

That's my story, and I'm sticking with it!!! It is more of a "be careful", than a "it doesn't work"...

steved