HTT has had the LDP wheel for a long long time, they just haven't put them on every turbo going out the door until recently. The phat shaft that II uses is the same thing as the LDP wheel. As it was told to me the LDP wheel came first and then guys at II named it for their product the phat shaft. I am not saying anyone copied anyone else or anything like that all I am saying is the LDP wheel has been around for a long time.