2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission I got it.... Brake Squeal...... Need Help on how to remove calipers....

[Haney]

OK, I caught it... the dreaded brake squeal... . I don't think penecillin will cure it, so I have to go in... .



It is the same squeal everyone else is complaining about... squeals like a pig while going down the road and then if you just ever-so-lightly put your foot on the brake pedal, it goes away. I pulled the front wheels and there is plenty of meat on the pads. I was going to take them off, hit the pad with 80 grit paper, deglaze the rotors, and grease the pins BUT could not for the life of me figure out how to get the calipers off..... I have done a lot of brake jobs but have never seen the any rattle clips like these. They are the brakes on on the truck in my Signature below... ... It apears to me like the rattle clips have to release before the caliper will "cock" out. Can somebody talk me through this..... I don't have a 2001 service manual YET... If somebody could zip me a picture that would even be better.....



Instead of my usual dive in and break something approach, I thought I would try getting some TDR help first.....



Also, how do you check for a sticking caliper. They seem awful tight while rotating by hand on the jack stand... ...



Thanks in advace for any help... .....

 

[azcummins]

When I did my brakes, the caliper just had 2 allen head bolts on the back holding them on. The pads just clipped out. Once you loosen the bolts, pull them out of the shaft they are sitting in and pull the caliper off.

 

[MikeR]

Yes, you are getting the same annoying squeek like I am... plenty of meat left on the pads, but they sqeal like mad under 35mph and the noise goes away with any slight brake pedal pressure.



The 2000 and newer caliper bolts are torx (t45 or t50, can't remember which). Once the bolts are out the caliper comes straight up. What makes them hard to come up is the little lip that the pad wears into edge of the rotor. It keeps you from easily pulling up on the caliper. I have to use a big screwdriver on mine.



-Mike

 

[RBSOB]

But have you fixed it?

I have the same squeal, posted about it in the last few weeks, but still haven't cured it. Mine is left front rotor only and I can make it happen even turning the wheel up on jack stand but can't eliminate it. Cleaning etc. are a very short term cure. Any known fixes??? Thanks Jim G.

 

[Bill H]

T-45... ... just checked mine 2 weeks ago.

 

[MCummings]

How about that!



Lucky me, my *Noisy* Dodge doesn't squeel,,, or maybe I can't hear it? but my '91 Mercury Grand Marquis does, and that car is VERY quiet,, so the brake noise is very loud, just a slight touch will make the squeel dissapear , but I would like to know how yall fixed it. The pads are nearly brand new (90%) and the discs look perfect. What's the fix?



Thanks,



Merrick Cummings Jr

 

[JGabl]

YES,YES,YES!!!

ME TOO!!!!!

Boy, talk about annoying! Had it at 9,000mi. and still have it at 29,000. Left rear. The pads and rotors are perfect. Anyone?? Thanks,

Jim Gabl.

 

[Koa Man]

Make sure you have some tie wire or twine to tie the calipers so the brake hose is not what's holding the weight of the calipers up after you unbolt them.

 

[MikeR]

The fix?

Well I'm thinking the factory pad is just a crappy pad material.



This coming up week, I'm going to take a drive down to Sam Peterson's brake shop in Olympia and get a set of his carbomet pads. I have them on my '95 with great results.



I'll put 'em on and run them for a bit and post my findings.



-Mike

 

[RBSOB]

TTT Cure anyone? Jim G.

 

[Rob Thomas]

No cure here, but mine were squeelin' a couple months ago, so I ripped 'em apart, took a look-see... ... ... nothin', so I re-installed 'em, and no squeel since, go figure. BTW, 60,790 miles on the original pads, front and back.



Later, Rob

 

[Extreme1]

A fix (don't know if it's "the fix"):



Take the calipers off, remove the pads. Now look at where the pads ride on the calipers. Rusty? Hold the pad in position (don't engage the rattle clip). Tight? If the answers are yes, take a flat file and remove some material from the caliper to get some clearance where the pad rides. (This is pretty common on newer vehicles)



When reassembling, you can put a thin smear of high temp grease over the contact points.



Enjoy...

 

[Steve Campbell]

I assume...

... you are not just talking about dust in the assembly that is easily removed with a garden hose.



Now I will probably hear why it is a bad thing to use the hose... .

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

Sometimes you can fix the squeal by chamferring the edges of the pads. "Fuzz" on the edges can make them squeal. I have not had any squealing problems with Performance Friction pads from Autozone.

 

[Haney]

Still a' squealin'

Well, I attacked the brakes yesterday.....



The pads looked a little glazed, the rotors were "shiny" and it was pretty dusty. I thought... . " I got your number now"..... NOT.



I sanded the pads, sanded the rotors, used 3 cans of brake cleaner, cleaned the caliper pins, lubed everything up (not friction surface) with some high dollar 100% Silicon Grease. Pads or calipers are not sticking!!!!!



I reasembled and by the time I got to the end of the neighborhood, the squeal was back... . It is so anoying..... I can't stand to drive the truck with the windows down... ..... This really sucks!!!! Can you tell that I am not happy!!!!



I am going to take back apart this week, replace the pads (they are about 75% good, turn the rotors, and buy all new rattle clips at Dodge. It this doesn't fix it, Hell, I may trade it!



Does anybody have any suggestions?????



Thanks,

 

[Bob Wagner]

TTT



any new news



i gotta do it soon





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[Pit Bull]

If you have drums on the rear like I do and that is where the noise is coming from a little trick that works is to set the emergency brake and back-up about 20 feet with it on. Works everytime for me.

 

[sam peterson]

before you trade in the truck----try chamfering the leading edge of inner & outer pads back about a half inch on about a 45 deg angle---thats the lower end of each pad as it is installed on the truck. . who knows you might save yourself about 40 grand. ----Sam

 

[WTBurke]

What size Torx is used on 2001. 5 glide pins? **ICEMAN** and I have been looking for this answer for weeks. Dealers don't know as I've called several. It's not T-45 or T-47. WHATS UP!!!!



William

 

[Firedup1]

This worked for me

I just replaced mine and they still squealed. I removed the pads again, scratched my head and BAM. The answer was right in front of me. Sam Peterson and Joseph Donnelly have also stated to chamfer the edges of the pad, why? Because there is a buildup of RUST on the inner and outer circumference both inboard and outboard on the rotor just outside the reaches of the pads. My truck had more rust on the inboard side. Remove the caliper and use a small chisel and carefully remove this rust and life is good.



Bob