I just drilled a huge hole in my truck!

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I just drilled a huge 4. 5 inch hole in my 34,000$ truck. I was so excited about the Psychotty Air unit and all of the great reviews it had so I got one and put it in.

Started up the truck... not too bad.

Backed out of the drive way... not too bad.

Stepped on the pedal... and thought the drill bit went all the way through to the glovebox !!

Took it for a test drive... LOUD RUSHING NOISE ALL THE TIME IN THE CAB WHENEVER YOU ARE ON THE THROTTLE AND THE BOOST COMES UP.

Ok so I take it out on the highway empty( no trailer). LOUD RUSHING NOISE AT ALL CRUISE SPEEDS!!
After many repeated test runs I did not notice any reduction of egt. I still got to 1250* with the edge set to level 1 in the exact same manner and speed that I always have .
TOTAL BUMMER!!!!!!!!!

Ok, enough whining. How do you guys with the Psychotty take it ??
More importantly has anyone figured out how to quiet the thing down to an acceptable level?
I thought of lining the air chamber(in the truck) with 1/4 inch rubber mat or something but I dont know if that will help or if its all the wind rushing past the black plastic screen near the base of the windshield that I am hearing.

PLEASE HELP!!!!

If I cant quiet this thing down I am going to send it back or sell it .
Anybody out there with the same results on the egt?? I mean if I cooled off 150-200 degrees it MIGHT be worth it.

Sorry Scott for slamming. I think your product is good for some people I just can't get over the noise and I did not see any egt reduction like I expected(that is why I bought it)
Please let my know if you think I am full of it, or can you help in any way.



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1999,2500 (white)4x4,QC,LB,ISB,AUTO,3. 54's Track Loc, All options except leather,Factory Flares(Black),Tow package , Camper package, Rhino Lining(Black), 285/75r16 ,K&N Filter, Waiting to BOMB the heck out of it(I need your inputs first !!!)Based on many inputs(THANKS) Bill K's TC and valve body,P. E. fueling box, DD stage 1 injectors, Psychotty air, Jardine 4'' exh. Autometer Egt,50 psi boost, trans temp Guages dash mounted with Autometers triple mount.
In the process of putting it all together!

 

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HOV,
My first reactions were similar to yours. I wrote Scott to express concern and suggest that his advertising should make potential buyers aware of the noise issue instead of listing only the positives. Scott was polite, but said "well thats three folks in several hundred that have had that complaint. " I guess you make #4.
I realize that some will like the extra noise, others won't, and I happen to be in the latter group.
Scott, I know you're out there; I think it is time for you to update your web page as I suggested. I haven't pushed the issue because you seem straight-up and I figured you would eventually do the right thing. Your product has plenty of positives, but folks also need to know that it does increase the in-cab noise levels, just like they realize that some of the "power boxes" increase smoke.
HOV, if it helps any, I still don't LIKE the noise, but it doesn't bother me as much now as it did at first. I do still have trouble explaining to people WHY I did a modification that increases noise on what is already a pretty noisy vehicle.



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2001 ETH, QC, LWB, 4WD, 3. 54, SPA Pyro & Boost, Leer Cab-high shell, Rear ARB locker, Psychotty Air

 

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I beleave K&N has a pre-wrap material for the air filter employed in that kit, cost and effectiveness, I have no clue but one would expect a little more restriction to potentially hush things a tad.

Good Luck.

 

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HOV, thanks for the post. I am (was, maybe) considering this mod also. It's good to be aware of the negatives of a modification before you go cutting 4. 5" holes in your new $35,000 truck.


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2001. 5 2500 QC, ETH/DEE, SLT plus, LWB, 4x4, solid white w/agate leather, 3. 55 LSD, camper/trailer tow, 241HD,TT mirrors, 4 wheel disc brakes, the works

 

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I have a suggestion for you unhappy Psycotty folks.
ASK QUESTIONS AND CHECK THE ARCHIVES. Read between the lines of fellow members post! It's your money!

Maybe I've been around forums too long but... . The Psychotty filter has been kicked around a bit in the past. Scott never said it improved your stereo.....
I made a post many months ago about getting one installed at Diesel Dynamics. Scott just happened to be there and did the install himself. I drove about twenty miles home, took it off and made a cover for the hole before my wife had a chance to hear it. If I didn't like the noise, I knew she would come unglued! Turning the a/c on amplified it.
I made a post then that this marvel was for the BOMBERS that remove turbo silencers, run unmuffled, like noise/smoke and need some EGT improvement. Not old farts like me. Scott e-mailed me and offered to buy it back and/or would like to have me as a sensitive (hearing) test guy to give opinions on his latest sound reducing technology. I thought this was a class act. Diesel Dynamics also happily agreed to a return.
When I bought it I had hoped it wouldn't be as loud as the straight Scotty system that other folks had claimed (gloriously) sounded wonderfull. I declined Scotty's generous offer.
This was probably the first mistake I ever made in my life #ad
. I sold it to a happy camper and have no regrets for giving it a try.
As far as EGTs go... ..... There has to be a lot of liars out there if it has no merit!
I know paying a bunch of dough for something that doesn't live up to your expectations is very disappointing but we all have to live and learn and LISTEN UP!
BTW..... folks report the K&N replacement filter in the standard box also produces extra glorious noise!
Ron
Also, thanks to all who replied to my Psycotty sale and forgive me for not getting back to you after the quick sale.

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HOV,
The Psycotty on my truck lowered the EGTs significantly. I can still get to 1300+, but not as easily as before. On hills that I could not climb in O/D (auto trans) because of EGTs hitting 1300, I can now do so with the Psycotty. This does not mean I can go WOT and not have the EGT hit a dangerous level, it just takes longer to get there. I feel the Psycotty is good for 100-150 degree reduction in EGT. I do not find the extra noise during aceleration bothersome, and once I hit cruising speed it is barely noticeable (to me). but I am also running a straight pipe. I like it a lot and feel it has helped my EGTs quite a bit. Sorry to hear that it doesn't seem to work for you, but I'm sure someone on the TDR will be more than happy to buy it.


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1996 3500 Clubcab SLT, auto, 4. 10 limited-slip, TST #5, Psycotty Air, Dunrite converter, Trans-Go shift kit, Straight pipe, DiPricol EGT, boost & trans temp. gauges, 9 ft. aluminum flatbed and tool boxes with Venco dump. Custom front bumper, Hadley air horn.

 

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After ordering my Psychotty, I had noticed some posts concerning the noise but when the filter came, I installed it anyway. I only noticed a little buzzing sound. Of course, I put it on in conjunction with my 4" exhaust. I am usually running 65-70 with 4:10's so it's humming pretty good. I am satisfied!

As far as drilling holes; my exwife used to get po'd at me when I would get a new vehicle and immediately drill holes for the CB, etc. Took a great delight in drilling just to get a rise out of her. Still does not bother me! The drilling that is.

 

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Ron Duncan... Thanks for your response on this... when I read this I thought Geees whats wrong with this picture... does one no longer read or use the tools available. . lots of post on this product. Good info to make an informed decision,to read.....
"Scott, I know you're out there; I think it is time for you to update your web page as I suggested. I haven't pushed the issue because you seem straight-up and I figured you would eventually do the right thing"
makes one think who the h**l are you to determin what the right thing is in someones elses business. . if ya don't like it fine, sell it and post it did not work for you. . we will decide what is right for us. . thank you very much. .

 

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To all who may or may not be concerned.
First to Scott- I am not slamming your product, and I hope you are not taking it that way. On the bright side I tested the truck at 9:30pm after working all day and it was dark out, I had the radio OFF, I still have my stock exhaust(quiet), and I was all alone in the truck doing my test runs,(even more solitude). I posted when I got home from the drive(still not used to the noise)and kind of upset.

Well today after I had a good nights rest(except for a dream that I drilled 4. 5 inch holes in my hood!)I tested the truck before work with the radio on my wife and daughter in the truck and it was not so bad in the daylight of things. It is still to loud for me at highway cruising speeds 70 mph and 1900 rpm seems to be the loudest for the Psychotty unfortunatly, but it is not as bad as I had originally stated.
Still am not impressed on the egt side of the house but I will do further testing before making any remarks.
Thanks for the replys, and YES I did do a slew of research on the TDR and read all the posts that I could find about the product but I never got the hint that'' glorious sound'' = STRAINING VACUME CLEANER IN MY GLOVE BOX.

Respectfully yours,

HOV.


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1999,2500 (white)4x4,QC,LB,ISB,AUTO,3. 54's Track Loc, All options except leather,Factory Flares(Black),Tow package , Camper package, Rhino Lining(Black), 285/75r16 ,K&N Filter, Waiting to BOMB the heck out of it(I need your inputs first !!!)Based on many inputs(THANKS) Bill K's TC and valve body,P. E. fueling box, DD stage 1 injectors, Psychotty air, Jardine 4'' exh. Autometer Egt,50 psi boost, trans temp Guages dash mounted with Autometers triple mount.
In the process of putting it all together!

 

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Originally posted by willyslover:
... when I read this I thought Geees whats wrong with this picture... does one no longer read or use the tools available. . lots of post on this product. Good info to make an informed decision,to read.....
"Scott, I know you're out there; I think it is time for you to update your web page as I suggested. I haven't pushed the issue because you seem straight-up and I figured you would eventually do the right thing"
makes one think who the h**l are you to determin what the right thing is in someones elses business. . if ya don't like it fine, sell it and post it did not work for you. . we will decide what is right for us. . thank you very much. .

Do you really feel your response to my comment is appropriate? And do you really think Scott would be better off if I just got pissed off and then posted on this board slamming his product? I'll respond to several of your comments; my goal is not to start a flame war, but just to get you to see this from another perspective. "read, use the tools". OK, I've read hundreds of posts on this board, but I happened to miss Ron's post, and maybe another one or two that might have mentioned the noise issue on this product. But I read dozens of posts about this product that said it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, without a whisper (no pun intended) about the noise. I would have LOVED to read both the pros and the cons of the product; and I don't think it was at all unreasonable for me to suggest to Scott that this feature of the product deserved at least some type of mention on his site. At the point when I first suggested it to Scott, it was just that - a suggestion from a customer, to him, no public posting here on this board. Are you saying a customer has no right to make such a suggestion? Guess again - that IS a customer's right. Scott's response to me did not include the offer to repurchase received by the earlier customer - in fact, I could have easily taken offense at the response I did get: "hundreds are happy, you are only the third to complain. " I think Scott was just being honest and didn't mean this to sound the way it did, but this same line is frequently used as a manipulative technique by salesmen who are simply trying to make a complaining customer go away by embarrassing him and making him feel he is "different" from everybody else. I've seen a lot of others use this board to proclaim quite loudly any dissatifaction with any product. I refrained putting that kind of post on this board out of respect for Scott as a small business that could be significantly hurt by that type of post. And it is that restraint, and the fact that I am the customer, that gives me the right to make the suggestion again that Scott really should say something about this on his web site. You say "we will decide what is right for us. . thank you very much". Good. That's exactly what I want everyone to be able to do. And making the information more readily available makes it easier for everyone to do just that - make a fully informed decision. You want to blame me because I didn't research it "enough" by your standards? Fine. How about this: Firestone seems to have a problem with some of their tires. Anyone who chose to "read, use the tools" as you put it should have known about the problem with Firestone tires for quite some time now. So I guess in your opinion, anyone who recently bought a Ford Explorer with defective tires has only themselves to blame, because the information is out there. All anyone had to do is read and use the tools, and they would have known this. And they shouldn't expect Firestone to take care of them; they should just get on the Internet and put their tires up for sale to some other unsuspecting victim.
I stand firmly behind my original suggestion: I believe Scott needs to put something on his web page that lets the customer know what to expect with this product, including not only the positives but also the change in "in cab" noise. Even a "money back" guarantee isn't the best way to handle this, because at that point the customer has already cut a 4. 5" hole in their truck.

 

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BRAVO HC! Very will said. I agree with you completely!

 

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Nothing personal to anyone here but i hear the I3 (inline 3 cylinder) in the Geo metro is pretty quiet.

Relax its not like you bought ocean front property in arizona, Think on the positive side

That 4. 5 inch hole and the cowl can act like a place for the cat to ride in or even a small dog.

Better yet use it as an emergency storage for your guns when the government comes to finally take them away for good... ... ...

Anway, just joking to try to ease the pain... ... ... ... ..... B

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Thanks for the post gentlemen, I'm trying to read between the lines and learn something here #ad
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2001. 5 2500 QC, ETH/DEE, SLT plus, LWB, 4x4, solid white w/agate leather, 3. 55 LSD, camper/trailer tow, 241HD,TT mirrors, 4 wheel disc brakes, the works

 

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When I ordered my Psychotty over the phone Scott warned it would be louder and that the silencer ring should not be removed,all without any promting from me. He was right, it is louder,but I don't feel it's excessive. It's a simple matter to reinstall the factory airbox for tooling your truck around town and save the Psychotty for serious towing or hauling. That is if the sound of the extra power bothers you,personally the extra noise is no big deal,it's still quieter than a Powerstroke!

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95' 25004X4,AT,Driftwood,Banks,Warn fender flairs and running boards(Play truck)95 3500,5 speed,driftwood,Banks&phscotty,34,000 GVW apple and tractor hauler(work truck)

 

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I noticed it was a little louder but thought I'd see what my wife said about it... she said she could barely tell any difference.
I know for a fact it reduced my EGT's. While driving around it 'seemed' that the EGT gauge was reading a little lower,then I got to compare it with a stock truck. As we drove,we called back and fourth on the CB's telling each others EGT readings and I was always 60-70 cooler(running empty).

Bill(in U-Place),
If you want to see/hear what the Psychotty is like,let me know. We can meet up at one of the malls or something.

-Mike

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'00 2500QC 4x4, 6spd, LB, 3. 54LS, SLT, Dark Garnet/Agate, Smittybilt nerfs, DD stageII, S/S braided fuel lines, Psycotty Air, 2wd low, 3"pipe bomb, Isspro pyro/boost, BFG 285/75at, Jacobs ebrake

 

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Another post from the noise sensitive guy . Oh what is this world comming to?????

Actually I have talked to Scott and he is trying some things to make it more quiet and I told him I would love to be the Guinnea pig!
So to all the Psychotty users out there who dont like the extra noise -Dont throw it away or sell it just yet I will continue to test and report on what works and what doesnt. And no promises from Scott but he is a good guy, and is trying hard for the minority of us with sensitive ears! THANKS SCOTT! I do think that you have a good product and thanks for trying!

CHEERS!
HOV

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1999,2500 (white)4x4,QC,LB,ISB,AUTO,3. 54's Track Loc, All options except leather,Factory Flares(Black),Tow package , Camper package, Rhino Lining(Black), 285/75r16 ,K&N Filter, Waiting to BOMB the heck out of it(I need your inputs first !!!)Based on many inputs(THANKS) Bill K's TC and valve body,P. E. fueling box, DD stage 1 injectors, Psychotty air, Jardine 4'' exh. Autometer Egt,50 psi boost, trans temp Guages dash mounted with Autometers triple mount.
In the process of putting it all together!

 

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When I first got my Psycotty system I still had my silencer ring out of the turbo and my S. O. made me put it back in. I can hear the noise from the turbo singing and the other cool thing is coming to work in the early AM I run with the fan turned off and let the air feed through the cowl to the inside of the cab. And when going into the throttle anymore than 1/2 the air flow coming out of the vents stops and at 30 PSI boost you can actually feel it drawing air.

This SYSTEM WORKs at reducing EGT. Yes I can still hit 1500 + deg but it takes alot longer. This system allow me to push my torque plate all the way forward and still be able to tow my trailer. On my last trip pulling a 5% grade I had to kick it off cruise(77 MPH) towards the top and drop to 70 MPH to keep the EGT under 1200. With the stock housing, K&N, and the 230/605 #12 TST plate I had to drop to 4th on the same hill last year to keep the EGT under 1200. I now have the 280/680 #11 plate and it is all the way forward and am able to stay under 1200 and in 5th. What allows this is the PSYCOTTY system. IT"S A GREAT PRODUCT!!!! #ad
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97 2500 Club 4X4 3. 54, Forrest Green/Driftwood, LSD 5 speed, & Psychotty Air System, TST #11 all the way forward, AFC spring kit, Geno's Exhaust Blanket, TST EGT gauge & 0-60 boost gauge in A Pillar, Cat-be-gone, 4" Dynomax Bullet muffler, Crome 4" turn down, AmsOil Through out, Geno's trans filter kit, AmsOil Bypass system, Lund Winter front, Leer Cab Level Shell Driftwood , 235/85R16 Goodyears, Dyno'd 342 HP *NRA/USPSA member and proud of it*

 

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MikeR, I've seen your rig before at the BD Dyno Days and I was impressed with the power your truck produced with the DDII's. As a matter of fact, I was so impressed that I went out and sold my 99 auto and ordered a manual so I could BomB safely. While I was there, I looked into upgrading the auto and decided the cost was not justified. The cost of selling the 99 and aquiring the 01. 5 manual was not significantly more than the cost of the auto upgrade, plus I have a rig 2 years newer with the extra goodies. I am planning to attend the next gathering the NW Rammers schedule and hope to check out the Physcotty first hand. Hope to see you there. Thanks

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2001. 5 2500 QC, ETH/DEE, SLT plus, LWB, 4x4, solid white w/agate leather, 3. 55 LSD, camper/trailer tow, 241HD,TT mirrors, 4 wheel disc brakes, the works

 

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I don't get it, didn't anyone ever take the top of their aircleaner off and HOTROD around. This made it sound like a friggin vacuum. I do not have the Scotty air but I would expect it to be louder like it was whan you would take the top of your aircleaner off.
I would like to try it, but I have Ebrake valve right there. I have noticed that when I pull the 44ft cargo trailer, If the tube between the fender and the actual airfilter housing comes loose, the EGT's go up 150 degrees. The Scotty has to help.
What is the turbo silincer?

 

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Hey Junebug,
If you haven't already, you might want to remove that tube completely. Made a noticable diff in my filter vacuum gauge. May help your egt.
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Yeah, a Quadrajet with the air cleaner lid turned upside down sounds great. Even made the slugmobiles SOUND good. Just had to remember to turn the lid right side up before returning the car to dad. #ad


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