Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) I know, another fuel pump ?

[HTRDHLR]

I replaced my fuel pump at my expense 10,000 miles ago in a campground. This morning it was barley pumping on the way to work so I dropped it off at the dealer and told them it needed a fuel pump. The guy calls back and says it needs a fuel pump,no surprise there. It will be in tommorow and repaired. I asked him if it was covered under the cummins warranty, he says no I have to pay $100 for a warranty deductable. The truck has 57000 miles on it. I am definatley going to get rid of theis crappy lift pump setup. Fass or Bulldog?

 

[paulb]

I installed a Rasp about 20K ago, and it has worked flawlessly. Here is a link: K. O. Engineering



Paul

 

[Black-Smoker]

I am going to go with the RASP. It looks like a good setup since its all mechanical. Just gotta save up some denaro.

 

[mgoncalves]

Still don't understand why you guys fork over 100's of dollars when you don't need to. My original lift pump started getting weak and sparatic, I could pull down to 1 psi easily. The same pump mounted by the tank, with the help of 1/2" lines and ditching the banjo fittings, now produces a solid 16 psi at idle and is rarely pulled down to 12 psi.



That's with a pump that would have been thrown away otherwise. It's been said before, there is NOTHING wrong with the stock lift pump, it is just being used in a less than desirable manner.



Matt

 

[KYLE4]

I just ran a secondary Fuel pump, Bd's lift pump kit

 

[B.G. Smith]

I replaced my fuel pump at my expense 10,000 miles ago in a campground. This morning it was barley pumping on the way to work so I dropped it off at the dealer and told them it needed a fuel pump. The guy calls back and says it needs a fuel pump,no surprise there. It will be in tommorow and repaired. I asked him if it was covered under the cummins warranty, he says no I have to pay $100 for a warranty deductable. The truck has 57000 miles on it. I am definatley going to get rid of theis crappy lift pump setup. Fass or Bulldog?

The pump is covered by the Cummins 100,000 mile warranty, mine was replaced at 75,000 miles with no charge. I know there is a deductable on the extended warranties but this is no the case. bg

 

[rweis]

See sig, 45k and lp is humming along perfectly (I do carry a spare though).



The RACOR filtered out some plastic shavings from ???? last month that would have screwed an lp, but like I said the RACOR did its thing. I get a couple of drops of water and some sediment in the bowl when I check it every couple of weeks, but that is what the RACOR does best.



It is a fuel SYSTEM, not a lp, some lines, a filter, a VP, and some injectors.



Bob Weis

 

[WTBurke]

HTRDHLR...



Bob is very right... it's a "system".



Looking at our OE factory system and scrutinizing the placement of the LP along with the "feeding" components (banjo-bolts, & feed line) leaves you with an empty feeling. In other words... it's LAME !



I did the AIRDOG (not Bulldog) it mounts-up very well, it's a much more compact platform than the FASS and you can "fuel-up" with the Cummins running with no "spit-back" at the fuel input. It provides 16 PSI at idle and you can't pull it below 15 PSI at WOT. It's very stable.



RASP... well I guess but, I wanted stable continuous flow under a wide range of operating conditions. I prefer to provide a non varying fuel quench to the VP44 to optomize cooling at idle or WOT.



If you look to Bosch and dive deep into their "requirements" regarding the feeding of the VP44 I believe you'll discover a theory of "stable continous uninterrupted flow" to be prevalent in the verbiage of their written words.

This entire subject has been of great discussion on so many threads from previous indaviduals. TDR is a wealth of knowledge... a search on "LP" should give you about 3 months of research.



You have many choices... some are messy... some are sweet and clean.



William

 

[jjordan1]

My dealer justbreplaced mine w\57300 miles @ NO CHARGE to me. I would tell them you want to talk w\ factory rep!!!!!

 

[HTRDHLR]

Well you knew it could not be a quick fix. The dealer calls and says it needs a lift pump so I said while you have the truck check the front end it has a bit of play. They call back two days later and say that the fuel pump is fixed but they needed to replace the track bar and the pittman arm and the truck needs to be aligned and that it wont fit on there alignment rack so they had to send it out to a truck shop. After another day they call and say it died at the alignment shop and thay are sending techs over to check it out. After many calls to the dealer they say it is fixed. I have a friend drop me off and I pick up my truck. I pull out of the dealer with the fuel pressure reading 01, I drive around the block and pull back in and bump the starter to see if I can hear the fuel pump, nothing. I tell the dealer that they need to fix it right and I dont want techs "test" driving my truck with no fuel pressure like they did twice before they called me to pick it up. Now I have no way home so I tell them I need a car so they got me a rental car. I am fed up with the dealer and I need to fix this right so I never have to go back to those idiots. The service righter had the nerve to try to tell me that the injector pump is fine with no fuel pressure as long as it has fuel, what a jerk. I will be ****** if the injector pump gets fried because of this.

 

[tdrpass1215]

Still don't understand why you guys fork over 100's of dollars when you don't need to. My original lift pump started getting weak and sparatic, I could pull down to 1 psi easily. The same pump mounted by the tank, with the help of 1/2" lines and ditching the banjo fittings, now produces a solid 16 psi at idle and is rarely pulled down to 12 psi.



That's with a pump that would have been thrown away otherwise. It's been said before, there is NOTHING wrong with the stock lift pump, it is just being used in a less than desirable manner.



Matt

can you give more specifics on how you did this?

 

[Hemiless]

HTRDHLR,



What ever you do don't pay the $100 as the dealer is jerking you around I just had my vp44 and lift pump replaced at my dealer last week at no cost because it was covered under the cummins 100,000 mile warrenty. Truck had 40,000 miles when they went out.

 

[tajensen]

resmith, there are plenty of posts on how members have relocated the lift pump, if you still can't find info send me a PM



-Tim