I need balance in my life

[georgej]

The truck: 2001 qc 3500 2wd w/ auto & 4:10 rear end. 18800 miles and goodyear oem tires



The problem: After recently rotating & balancing the tires I noticed a slight shake coming from the rear tires. Upon inspection

two wheels appeared to be bent and were replaced tires remounted and balanced. It still shimmys at about 55 mph!!



What should I check next??





TIA , George Johnson

 

[BigFun]

Two thoughts come to my mind: one or more tires is/are out of round OR perhaps a piece of something is lodged between your wheel and one or more of you hubs. Not an expert by any means. I'm assuming you didn't have this prior to rotation. I rotated my tires a few weeks ago. Inside rears were pretty muddy and clogged. Maybe when yours were rotated, some of the road junk got in between.



Hope this helps. BF

 

[JTroiano]

If you have after market wheels, sometimes the stud hole is very small. On the rotors or drums they put a little metal retainer on the stud. So when on the assembly line they don't fall off and hit someone in the head. You can remove them and throw them out. If they sit under the wheel, they can cause the tire and wheel to wobble. I almost missed them when I put the new wheel on. Hope this helps.

Jon

 

[Thomas]

The fasteners look like this:

#ad

 

[DennyDay]

Tires

Oh, the joy of trying to re-balance goodyear tires. The balancer they use at the factory does a good job, but I've never been able to keep goodyears balanced, or been successful with a re-balance

Denny

 

[Texas Diesel]

Re: Tires

Originally posted by C. D. Day

Oh, the joy of trying to re-balance goodyear tires. The balancer they use at the factory does a good job, but I've never been able to keep goodyears balanced, or been successful with a re-balance

Denny

I've noticed the same thing. Especially with Goodyear Wranglers, factory balance was fine but the tire shops could never get rid of the vibration. Thought is was my imagination... until now.

 

[DennyDay]

Weren't dreamin'

Tex Diesel - -- You were not dreaming - - I don't know what the deal is with Goodyears, unless the cords start to come un=done with miles.

Denny

 

[Beast2B]

self balancing arrangement

I saw a thread a month or so ago(https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=28027&highlight=counteract) from a member that installed new tires and tried this stuff:

www.counteractbalancing.com

I am changing to new wheels/tires soon, so I picked up some of the prepackaged beads... I'll post later after I run it awhile.

 

[DarrellB]

I had a set of Big O big foot XT's on my truck for about a year ( only got 11,000miles out of them ) and they could never get them balanced right. The manager told me it was the factory dodge steel wheels, he said the wheels had to much run out on them and they couldn't get them to balance. I finally wore the tires down to were there was nothing left and got a set of Firestone SteelExes which I ran for about 2 1/2 years and they were always balanced well.



Big D

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Tires that seem to be impossible to balance are likely to be out of balance dynamically. In other words, when the weight of the vehicle is applied to the tire, it doesn't support the weight equally around the circumference of the tire. It may squash down on one side slightly more than the other. There is such a thing as dynamic balancers but I have never seen one.



Another thing related to runout, I had a Bronco II that would never balance out on tires. I finally jacked it up and started it and let it run in gear. After some careful observation and measurements, I found the rear right lugs were OFF CENTER with the axle centerline!! The holes in the axle flange were drilled about 1/8" off from true center. Imagine trying to discover that one!



Vaughn

 

[georgej]

Thanks for all the input fellas! I think I'll try Vaughn's idea and



jack it up and check runout and wheel trueness. Can feel the sore



muscles already.









George

 

[FourBarR]

tire balancing

my truck came with goodyear tires. no problems with balancing. they lasted for 85000mi. i installed michlins at costco . they did not run smooth. went back for re balance they claimed wheels were bent . went to local tire shop . they had a special machine called a road force balancer . it has a roller that runs against the tire while its rotating . the computer determines the heavy and light points of the tire and wheel. they deflate the tire and rotate it on the wheel inflate it and rebalance . problem solved .

 

[Cooker]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is bad shocks



Just a thought,

Ryan

 

[Gizmo 007]

Ok, you guys are going to think I'm nuts. I may be, but I run 4 golf balls in each of my tires. They automatically balance the tires as you go down the road.



It sounds crazy but it works. They won't work if the tire is way out of round, but they help if it is just a little out. They're cheap if nothing else. Only thing is, when you have a blow-out, well, ever seen a truck juggle ?

 

[sinkinson1]

go to www.gsp9700.com you can type in your zip & city and will tell you nearest location of a hunter gsp9700 forced balancer machine shop. i have had great luck with 33" tires that are out of round. cost a little more than normal but well worth it.

 

[JTroiano]

If anyone lives in the Portland, Or area and needs the tires balance on the Hunter 9700. We have three of them and They work great. Send me an E-mail if you want more info.

Jon

 

[bmddiesel]

Georgej

I vote on the problem being the Goodyear's. I have tried them on multiple Ford Explorers and presently on a Honda Accord with little satisfaction.

I have purchased my last Goodyear tire because of a balancing problem.

It is unfortunate because I have very good dealers close by. They just aren't able to balance the tires through all mph ranges.

Later,

bmd

 

[georgej]

BMD



I jacked up the truck and checked the tires yesterday. Couldn't believe all four rear treads had varying amounts of side wooble! I have an appointment at the Goodyear dealer in Salem this afternoon to see what they'll do. I'll keep you informed.



Thanx, Georgej

 

[georgej]

Well. . the Goodtear warrantee and about 90 dollars each will



replace the bad tires!!!!!!! They were worn to ten thirtysecounds



tread and 11 months old. Guess it's off to Les Swaub. Thanx to



all!



Georgej