I recieved this in email today

[JConley]

In Central Texas all the gasoline comes from the same pipeline, and it becomes Exxon gas when it is put in an Exxon tanker and Mobile gas when it is dumped in a Mobile tanker. Diamond Shamrock gets gas from the same distribution point as all the others.

 

[MCummings]

Originally posted by Blakers

Let's start drillin' some more wells baby!!!

Let's Do It! I'm for it. Drill here, and we won't need oil from over there, but the greenies don't like oil wells, or gas wells. So, we are stuck shipping it in, because we can't drill.



Oil anbd gas will always be needed, no matter if we drive vehicles that get 5MPG, or 50MPG, we will still need to change oil, and add fuel. As long as you are paying for the oil and gas, I'll be out here helping get it to you, and you will always be paying for the fuel, but the more you restrict us, and the less fuel you use, the more prices will go up.



Merrick

 

[barbwire]

Originally posted by Big MAK

There's a-lot of these types of things going around. If I allow the forum to become a breeding ground for them we won't be able to slip a word in edge-wise and talk about trucks; so... . much as I hate to do it this needs to stay in OTHER or we won't have a truck forum left here in 3rd Gen Engine.

Yes you are right. I thought it needed more exposure. But perhaps the "other" forum would be best

 

[DWordinger]

As others have already pointed out, this bogus plan has been floating around for a long time, and it is still just as useful as that "floater" in your crapper.



If all customers leave Exxon-Mobil, it increases the demand for other brands. When demand goes up, price goes up. What this plan does is raise the prices for Shell, Union, BP, and all other brands. When the demand for Exxon-Mobil goes down, the price will come down until demand goes back up. So if everyone else will agree to pay higher prices at other retailers, I will enjoy low prices (and short lines) at the local Exxon-Mobil station.



Actually, the price of fuel isn't going up. It fluctuates, like all other commodities, but the real price has come down over the years. The problem is the "price" (value) of a dollar bill has gone down farther and faster. The price of fuel is no different the prices of milk, nails, and light bulbs in this regard.

 

[Blakers]

Originally posted by MCummings

but the greenies don't like oil wells, or gas wells. So, we are stuck shipping it in, because we can't drill.

If we took all the greenies in America and rendered them down to fat, then made the fat into biodiesel, how much would we save on imported oil? This would kill two birds with one stone, so to speak. And greenies like biodiesel, right?

 

[ttreibel]

It doesn't really work to Boycott the oil companies they just switch names lie low for 5-10 years and then come back over and over and over... ... .



Hmmm... ... What ever happen to Gulf oil? They never made it back... ... .



With computers working diesel engines I see a bright future with Bio-Diesel propelling us to year 2099 and beyond I never like the sound of Hydrogen cars



I hate to say it but I think the days of sub one dollar diesel are gone forever I just hope I am not saying that next year about sub 2 dollar diesel

 

[Blakers]

Gulf is still around in some areas. The franchises of all the companies seem to move around now and then. There used to be ARCO and Union 76 stations around here and they all moved out.



Here's an interesting site on the history of the companies that were once Standard Oil

http://www.us-highways.com/sohist.htm



BTW, Gulf motor oil is all made by American Rifining in Bradford, PA from 100% Pennsylvania Grade Crude Oil. This is the old Kendall refinery - Sunoco bought the Kendall name and took it elsewhere. It's no longer PA Crude oil.



Just a thought on prices... gasoline was $1. 24/gallon when I was in college in 1979 and 1980. What would it cost now at today's dollar?

 

[KIseminger]

Originally posted by Blakers

Just a thought on prices... gasoline was $1. 24/gallon when I was in college in 1979 and 1980. What would it cost now at today's dollar?

Funny you say that, I was buying diesel for $1. 25/gal. in South Denver (littleton) area 2 years ago and gas prices were a good $0. 20 ahead of that. Now look where we are... ... #@$%!

 

[Blakers]

Originally posted by KIseminger

Funny you say that, I was buying diesel for $1. 25/gal. in South Denver (littleton) area 2 years ago and gas prices were a good $0. 20 ahead of that. Now look where we are... ... #@$%!

You don't get my point... here is what the equivelent to $1. 24/gallon in 1979, would be in today's dollars:



"What cost $1. 24 in 1979 would cost $3. 29 in 2002.



Also, if you were to buy exactly the same products in 2002 and 1979, they would cost you $1. 24 and $0. 47 respectively. "



We're really getting a pretty good deal on fuel prices today.



You can calculate your own inflation at http://www.westegg.com/inflation/

 

[klenger]

While I have no desire to pay more than I have to for fuel, I totally agree with Blakers. It's because of the cheap fuel during the glut that we get so upset about the more realistic prices when it's higher.