Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) I screwed up, (KDP)

[NormCampbell]

My first time posting, just changed out my KDP, had to put in a new timing case housing, real fun, (not even). Anyhow got the truck back together and now it does not start, turns over good and am getting fuel to injectors, checked my fuel shut-off solenoid and relay, no problems there.

Sorry to say I think that my timing is off big time so it does not start, just wondering if there is anyway to set the timing that far foreword or backwards without pulling the front end off again and getting into the timing case again.

Hope someone can help. :-{}

 

[JSharp]

Norm,

Hey bud sorry to hear about your misfortune. I had to do mine the same way three weeks ago. And I had the same problem when I got it back together. I was waiting on the Snap On man to bring me my timing kit and got this method from a cummins tech. You did not say what year your truck was but mine was is a 98 and this is what i did. On the side of the pump just forward of the fuel shut off lever and slightly lower is a plug. Unsrew the plug and pull it off. Look on the inside of the plug you should find a piece that if turned around and put back in the plug will act like a timing pin. Bar the engine over intill you can see the hole come into view in the cavity where you remove the plug. When it lines back up put the plug back in with the pin in place. Now losen the pump gear nut and pull the gear loose. You can do this through the hole made when you remove the oil fill tube. Do Not take the nut all of the way off, just loose and the gear will pop of the taper shaft. Next bar the engine over to top dead center, I am sure you know the pin is in the back of the timing case underneith the pump. Once the engine is at top dead center, remove the pin from the pump and reinstall the way it came out, torque the pump nut (80ftlb), pull the pin out of the timing case, retorque pump nut to 150-170 and it should run. My timing kit came in last week and that setting put my pump at about 11. 5 degrees. Not the best, but at least it ran. Hope this helps. Sorry for the long post.

Jason

 

[SDrake]

JSharp gave you what you need to know except forgot to mention that TDC (Top Dead Center) for the #1 piston occurs at the end of the compression stroke and at the end of the exhaust stroke. Be sure you are at TDC for the compression stroke when you lock the shaft to the gear. You can advance your timing by barring short of TDC while the pump is pinned. My damper is 8 3/4 inches in diameter so I stopped short by about 3/8'. Forget the exact distance. I calculated the circumfierence of the damper by multiplying the diameter of the damper times PI (3. 1416) and dividing by 360 to get the distance around the damper for each degree of revolution. Then multiply that number by the number of degrees you want to be advanced and you will have the distance back from TDC that you want to pin the pump to.

 

[PSchwering]

I just read this thread. All advice is good, I just wanted reiterate that you must make absolutly sure BOTH timing pins have been pulled out before you try to start it! Don't ask me how I Know. P.

 

[TDoumit]

i am not looking forward to doing this. . lol!

my kdp is currently sleeping unaware of its destructive potential. hopefully i can edu-ma-kate myself a bit in the way of cummins engine before i tackle it.

 

[Signal73]

i am not looking forward to doing this. . lol!

my kdp is currently sleeping unaware of its destructive potential. hopefully i can edu-ma-kate myself a bit in the way of cummins engine before i tackle it.

If you hurry up and git 'er done, you wont have to deal with whats above, If you wait and it hits you though...