I think im being scammed on my sale?

[Lorenz]

Heres a copy and past of an email i recieved from a guy that wanted to buy my truck camper. I listed it for sale on TDR classifieds plus any others i found that had free listings.



I think i read about a scam like this on the TDR forum, am i correct? The first Question are the ones I had for him regarding his Email. i deleted his phn # anybody recognise his area code and prefix?

















Whats your clients name address and phone # the refund money order needs to be sent to?



whos the agent/company coming to pick up the camper, what will they need from me?



what courier service should i use to send the bill of sale?

----- Original Message -----

From: kelvin melberg

To: Sean

Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:39 AM

Subject: Payment arrangement...





Hello Sean,

Thanks for the response to our demand. I'll need you to send recent pictures(interior & exterior) of the truck camper so i can ascertain if it's in good physical condition. I have notified our client of your final offer and he has instructed us to carry on with the transaction. He said that I should inform you that payment will get to you in a cashier check of US$28,000 which is a refund payment of a cancelled order earlier made by my client. The order was cancelled because,when our agent went for the pick-up,it was discovered that the trailer had been in an accident and this wasn't mentioned during the course of the transaction.

Due to company policy this check has to be made out in this amount to you,because company policy only allows a refund payment on one cashier check,so you are required to deduct cost of your truck camper,$21,000 when payment gets to you and refund balance $7,000 to my client via western union money transfer or money gram transfer for him to be able to offset shipping charges.

After payment has reached you and balance sent back to him,our agent will come for the pick up and take to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer,while other necessary documents will be sent by you via courier service to my client. Please Confirm this and provide NAME, ADDRESS and PHONE NUMBER for check payment to be delivered to you via courier service. You can reach me on 206-339-xxxx if you have further questions.

Thanks.

Kelvin Melberg.

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[Pawpaw]

I agree. That transaction has a distinct aroma to it.



I would run, not walk, away from that transaction.



Tell them it is your policy that all payments have to be for the exact amount. Their "company policy" should not carry any weight for you. You hold the goods.



Bob

 

[kshimizu]

I'd say that's a scam. We get daily emails inquiring about horses and the products we sell. They all look similar, they just fill in the blanks to match the product you are trying to sell. Usually I just send the messages to the spam folder, but once in awhile I'll email back to see if they have anything besides another generic letter. Usually it looks like another fill in the blank form that they fill out when looking at your ad or website. The funniest one we got was a guy wanting to place an order from Africa for candles to carry in his store. He wanted 20 candles, so around 400 bucks. I checked on shipping to his address and it was over a 1000 dollars. He said that was fine, he'd send a cashiers check for thousands over the amount and I'd write a check back or however the hell the whole scam is supposed to work



Anyways, I'd say yours sounds like a scam to me.

 

[0013]

i agree with bob. that sounds very BAD.

 

[Steve St.Laurent]

DEFINATELY a scam - run away. Here you go - http://www.fdic.gov/news/news/SpecialAlert/2003/SA1703.html

 

[one8upcb]

Hate to tell you but that is a scam. If you click under search and type in nigerian scam. It shows some examples of how that works. Someone tried to scam my wife with that same type of scenario. So email him back and tell him to F@#% off.

 

[MNorgren]

When I was selling my truck on TDR I got hit with that scam. Not much you can do to catch this bunch.

 

[TFerrari]

This is a Scam!!! Happens all the time. The cashier check is a fake and by the time you find out they have your 7 Grand. happened to a freind of mine selling a car. B of A even told him the check was good and that it had cleared and then latter said it was no good and he was out of luck. He is still fighting them but it doesn't look good. I would give any one a thing until the check clears period and its done in person and you know exactly who you are dealing with and where they live. Verified address and drivers licence and talk to their banker. Cash is always king with me! His scammers where based in Canada. I always want to know where i can track somebody down. Never been screwed on a deal but always play it safe. Cash in hand is the only way.

If they cant get it is probably for a reason. You can always set up an escrow account until a check clears then they can get the merchandise. Good luck and be carefull. Lots of scum out there. Thats why we have guns and they don't. Paybacks are hell.

 

[BKenny]

I read something about scams that said that to watch out for Western Union . I gues they use that alot

 

[Lorenz]

Ok, who knows enough to have some fun? Ive routed the email back to amsterdam and camarroon africa through ip addresses but dont know what to do with it from here... . any help. the first one is the originator i think



http://www.ripe.net/whois?form_type...searchtext=+213.255.211.142+&do_search=Search





also from his first corospondance i get this, maybe routed through amsterdam? help



http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl

 

[Lorenz]

213. 255. 211. 142



copy and past this ip into the second link. the link doesn't see the ip

 

[JL penner]

These people are fun to mess with. I wish I still had the emails that went back and forth. I had the guy convinced that he had me in his pocket, but I kept coming up with more and more reasons why he didn't have the money yet. I wish I could have seen the look on his face when I emailed him a link to a scam warning website!!



Also, it works the other way too. I found a trailer on ebay a while ago that was being sold for about $40K less than what is was worth. The guy wanted me to wire a $3K deposit to him in Greece. I started running him around in circles and he got pretty p****d off at me. Said he had another buyer so if I didn't hurry up and send the payment I was going to lose the purchase. I kept asking for copies of documents that he said he had. That's when he started threatening to sell to someone else.

 

[Lorenz]

A copy and past of the email im sending back to him ****unless i get a better idea*** from my fellow TDRers!!!! I hope its him!



I cant help but laugh and grin when i reread it... .













Ok Blaise



the FBI and Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation has your # and address... how does the sound of cold hard AMERICAN steal handcuffs sound right now Mother f***er?



*person*: Blaise Fongoum

address: Cyberix Networking s. a.

address: Douala, Cameroon

phone: +2373437550

fax-no: +237 343 75 51

e-mail: -- email address removed --

_nic-hdl_: BF662-RIPE

mnt-by: SV-MNT <http://ripe.net/whois?searchtext=SV-MNT&form_type=simple>

changed: -- email address removed -- 20031202

source: RIPE

 

[DGFoster]

I have a friend who just went through this,the EMAIL came from Nigeria and it said he was a rich man that a long lost cousin died and left him 3. 2 million,he really thought it was real.

I get them too,I just add them to the junk folder.

 

[GFrance]

I've always been suspicious when selling things. The last big item I sold was a 2000 Harley Davidson Road King. The guy brought me a cashiers check but it was made out to him instead of me so I took him right to my bank had him cash it. I even bought a pen to check $100 bills.

 

[tschwab]

Looks fishy, but the (206) area code is from Seattle, WA, hope this helps.

 

[Cattletrkr]

Got a similar offer when I sodl my '01 through Autotrader. Told the Guy to F off. I kinda wish I had OK'd the deal and just had the cops/feds waiting here when he arrived. that woud be a look worth seeing. :{ :{

 

[Sherman]

scam

Sounds like the same scam I had last Jan when selling my Chevy 1 ton,they were in a big rush so I suggested a bank transfer,I never heard from them again.

 

[WyattEarp]

SCAM SCAM SCAM, Written all over that, i get those emails from nigeria, about the one that some guy died in an accident and they can't find his relatives, blah blah blah..... same old story, good thing these pple can't meet me in person, there would be less scam artist around if so :-laf

 

[WStoops]

Once you insist on having their check clear BEFORE you send out yours that will be the end of them. You know what it says on our money (for the present moment at least) "In God We Trust". I would add, All Others Pay Cash.