IBIZ car care products ?

[Tractorat]

Ever since the first time I washed my 2014 dodge dart it has had swirly scratches in the paint. I washed it with a quality soap and a brand new microfiber cloth. Ive tried everything from Mcguires to Mothers etc, but nothing seems to work very well to take the swirls out. Ive never had this problem on my other cars except my ram. And the ram has had the same issue since new. Im pretty convinced it is a problem with the dodge paint process.

Anyway, they were selling this IBIZ product in costco today, so I bought a box. It has some spray on waterless car was, an even more potent car wash, and a wipe on wipe off wax product. For $60, I thought what the heck, Ill try it.

Has anyone had any experience with this stuff ? Good ? Bad ? Better or not as good as Mothers etc ?

 

[avvblanc01]

Im very into car detailing so I'll chime in on this. Basically, paint is a whole lot softer than most people think. improper washing (even what most people think is overkill) will actually damage your paint and introduce swirls especially in paint or clear coat. most people arent bothered by these swirls and don't wash their cars often or properly, but if they do bother you there are solutions.
Nothing will get rid of swirls in paint except for a true paint correction (meaning the IBIZ products you bought won't help sadly). That process actually uses abrasives to "sand" (for lack of a better word) your paint down so that they are no longer visible. Its a very time intensive process, but the results are absolutely amazing. I have done it to my used trucks and the results spoke for themselves. here is a before and after photo of the process on my white 1st gen. The paint on the left is corrected, and to the right was taped off to show the original swirls and marring.
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Adams paint correction by Andrew Villablanca, on Flickr

if you want more on the paint correction process, here is a step by step how to video: here is a video on that process: https://adamspolishes.com/video?video_id=20

the most important thing is to avoid those swirls induced by improper washing in the first place. that means using a high quality car soap, high quality microfiber wash mitts, and high quality microfiber towels. It also means that you need to use proper washing techniques. (yes there is a wrong and right way to wash a car haha)
This video outlines proper car washing techniques: https://adamspolishes.com/video?video_id=22

I'll admit that the above washing techniques and then protection steps (like paint sealant and other products) are too much work for most, but I for one feel the need to care for and protect my car. I am a huge fan of Adam's detailing products (i have no association with them) and would recommend them over anything you can buy at a big box store. I understand that the price tag may not be for everyone, so i would recomend poor boy's world or meguiars as viable alternatives at a lower price point. if you have any more detailing related questions feel free to ask!

 

[Tractorat]

Thanks for the reply. Yeh, I used brand new micro fiber, good soap, etc on this car. But I got the swirls almost immediately anyway. I never did get any swirls on my wifes 2000 buick, her new hyundai, or the gmc yukon that I had before the truck. I did get swirls on the truck (dodge). BTW, the truck still looks pretty good (2002), but Ive always had to be careful of the paint. Its always seemed like you could almost rub it off with your finger. The new dart is a lot better, but Im convinced that the dodge paint process may not be up to par with some of the other mfgs.

The swirls are only visible if you look for them, and only in the bright sun at a certain angle. I guess I was looking for a miracle product that some of the car care products promise, but I really didnt think it would work as promised. Oh well, it still looks good the way it is.

 

[DaveHess]

My 2003 is Graphite Metallic. I use Griot's products. I bought everything of his. I drank the kool-aid in other words. So far I am very happy. I use a microfiber on a stick to wash. I only use Griot's car wash in Griot bucket with a strainer on the bottom. Has a measuring cup built into the bucket. I use a rather large microfiber towel to dry followed by a clay bar treatment. Then I use Griot's machine Polish 4 for my Graphite Metallic color (I use Machine Polish 3 on my white Kia). I follow that with Griot's paint sealant. I do this once a quarter. In between I use a carnauba wax when I feel like it. Great way to kill a Saturday but so worth it. I swear the paint looks like I can sink my hands into it. I don't do the polish, waxing or sealant by hand anymore. I'm getting old. I bought the random orbit buffer that Griot's sells along with their recommended pads.

 

[DaveHess]

While we are on this topic, The front and rear cap of my Jayco Eagle "dull up" rather quickly anymore. I use Meguiar's RV polish and wax on the fiberglass exterior. The sides look gorgeous all summer but the end caps take repeated workings to keep them glossy. But there isn't much better than walking out from a rest area bathroom to my pick-up and camper and both just gleam in the sun!!!

 

[DavidC]

While we are on this topic, The front and rear cap of my Jayco Eagle "dull up" rather quickly anymore. I use Meguiar's RV polish and wax on the fiberglass exterior. The sides look gorgeous all summer but the end caps take repeated workings to keep them glossy. But there isn't much better than walking out from a rest area bathroom to my pick-up and camper and both just gleam in the sun!!!

They probably dull up pretty quick because you are not getting all of the oxidation off. I cleaned mine up about 18 Months ago which required a rotary ,wool pads and compound. After that I used a DA and Collinite 870 Liquid Fleet wax which is a cleaner wax to remove any compounding oils. The last step was Collinite 885 Fleet Wax. I never found Meguiar's to have any longevity and I only want to have to wax 9 Months to a year with no compounding. 960ish square feet of fiberglass at 61 is not really my idea of a fun time.

Dave

 

[avvblanc01]

DavidC is right. Wax is just a protection layer, so in order to truly get the oxidation off, you'll need an abrasive process like paint correction and a orbital polisher. I don't think that would be very fun to do on an RV but I see people do it all the time haha

 

[DaveHess]

Hey DavidC! Thanks for the tip. And I agree, even at 52 it isn't much fun!