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RD,

Dont take what I said as an attack it was of a rant of generalities not necessarily aimed at you or anyone in particular. Good luck with the charger and your new truck.
 
I think you need to read my post where I agreed and said it may be a bit much for a mildly modded truck.....



And no I don't spend my time blowin smoke up vendors arses- I am busy building up a Pro Mod Diesel Racer- also starting up events in the North East region with the NHRDA- this involves meeting with track owners and presenting references setting dates- promoting these events- ect,ect,ect.



So no excuses or spruce gooses here JW and Hammer, I am working diligently to bring Diesel Motorsport Events into my region, that is my first order of my concern, secondary and the icing on the cake is my Pro Mod Racer- built from the ground up. I guess I'm supposed to walk in the shop and see these engines I'm prepping for battle get done by magical little elves? No- I'm doing it myself.



Have a nice day guys.



Isn't there one in your region that's just 30 min. from where you live? I think it's July 14th, are you going?:D



BTW nice turbo. II builds some nice stuff, and I am looking forward to seeing how it works on your truck when you get it to the track. :)
 
It's a bit more than 30 minutes, and its possible, I have to get a note first... :-laf

I doubt the rig will be ready by then, when it is I'll be runnin it;)

And I'm looking forward to it also... Oo.
 
Hammer get a life!

I have a life,thank you but I am glad your looking out for my well being.



RD... .

I'd have to agree with JW,you have may have it started spooling at 1800,but it will never be lit fast enough for even a heavily fueled street truck. You talking about a charger which is just smaller than what most guys are using as bottom chargers on twins setups. I agree that once its lit,it will go,but until that point it will kill low end thus meaning bad incrementals which will end up with poor et slips. I would agree that for the sled pulling contigent that this may be the middle of the road charger they have been looking for.



On the cheerleading deal...

I could care less what your doing with it,care not where your "planning" on using it and do not care about any diesel sanctioning body,so jealous I am not. What I do care about is facts and what this turbo is going to do for the owner who wants one. Knowing now that NONE have been used by anyone other than the II race rig I should have known better than to expect you to answer any question honestly.



Maybe Brett or someone in the know at Industrial will step in and shed some light on this with answers that make sense... ... . Andy
 
To the people that don’t believe it will spool, you must first understand the reasons why the 80 mm silver bullet is necessary and how it came about.



What follows is the simple secret to big power, with relative reliability. Well don’t listen.





First for maximum effort power you need lots of cool air. Air is the only limiting factor in any performance engine, including the Cummins diesel.



Another critical factor is air charge density, and to this end a cool intake charge is optimal.

The bottom line is pounds of air in the combustion chamber and not pounds of boost.

Twins are not the optimal selection to absolute maximum power. Twins are restrictive and work the air hard with two compressors producing a lot of heat .

They work great on multi purpose trucks, but if its all out power a proper sized single is the best selection

Now before you go defending street twins, I am talking about a maximum effert CR engine. If you make big boost numbers with twins you make heat. This heat translates in to high temperatures going in to the combustion chambers. You will still make power, but the thermal load on top of the piston is higher. When starting with higher combustion temperatures, it leads to component failures, remember any internal combustion engine works off thermal gas expansion. If you start with a higher temperature you will have to generate even more heat in the combustion process to develop the combustion chamber pressure at 10degrees ATDC to expand the air to push the piston down.



You can reduce compression ratio and fix the longevity problem, but by doing this you lose expansion efficiently.





This is why we are at this point in turbo development.

First cylinder head development has taken off with the inclusion of mainstream airflow development such as the work Chris Franks of ProStock cylinder head fame that now grinds for RayMac racing engines. is doing Before the last few years and, really not until one of Chris’s works of art found its way on to a CR in Project X, diesel head development was in the dark ages. John Russin developed and stills dose some really great heads, but only a few took advantage.



With these new heads, and some nifty cam technology the potential air flow of a B series doubled. Project X had a full array of data logger, and with this capability we found that these cutting edge engines needed a lot more air a lot more air.



A silver bullet 66 turbo that easily made big boost numbers making cool air was at its limit. With only 38 lbs of boost it did make 860+ hp, but the engine wanted more air. I have been providing data logger downloads to Brady and Shane for quite some time. The worked with me on my former ride and we worked steadily from one exhaust housing to a looser ones, each time making more power. That truck also makes over 1200 hp with only 35 to 38 lbs of boost.



So in a simple form

Better air flow = lower boost to make power,

Lower boost means you don’t have to make a turbo spool as far up

Bigger turbos means more air which = even more power
 
there's only so big you can go with a single. I want to see some numbers on multiple trucks. So far i heard II only had two built. I remember a year ago last week Shane told me the silver bullet was the biggest turbo any of us needed and he wanted me to go from a 71 to a 66, times have changed i guess. On my truck i saw a 200 HP loss on diesel and NOS! with a 80 MM inducer, but it wasn't an II turbo. II understands turbo's on lower RPM motors more than other shops do. Not saying it won't work, but lets see some #'s before everybody gets excited.
 
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