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Does anyone out there have the part number for the thin (. 025") injector washers to run under the POD's? I bought a set of POD's, but they came with the thick washers. From what I have read in these forums, the thin ones are the hot setup for minimizing the smoke at idle . . .



Thanks for your help!



Keith
 
Keith PM or email me your home addy and I'll send ya some, I bought the install kit which came with all sizes of washers and I couldnt use any of them since I had to use adaptor tips (which are washers themselves) since Im non-intercooled. Bill -- email address removed --
 
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If anyone's interested, I have a set of superthin ones, also. I have the 9mm holes; I'd be willing to trade for the thick washers (up one step from the . 0625"). I put the thick 7mm washers I had in Mom's pickup, and it cut smoke to zero; smoothed it out all across the RPM band, and seems to improved MPGs. It came with thick ones stock, and I think that could help mine as well. Cant hurt.



Daniel
 
I'd be willing to trade for the thick washers (up one step from the . 0625").



Daniel,

I have 6 that are . 093" thick that came in the set I got from drturfo with the Bully Dogs.

e-mail me at my timken address if ya want em and what you want to trade for em.

I don't need your mailing address... . got it memorized I think.

Jay
 
Part Numbers

Kit is DPE59000 (DIPACO Diesel Parts - Reno)

Contains D3920174 1. 65mm (0. 065)

Contains D3923261 2. 5mm (0. 10)

May contain one more size???



Cummins

3906659 1. 5mm (0. 06)

3923261 2. 5mm (0. 10)

3281840 3. 0mm (. 118) no longer available through Cummins???

3930324 0. 5mm (0. 02) super thin



Observation/question

If the piston travels 0. 666mm per degree of crank, then if the 3923261s (0. 10) are proper for something like 11 degree BTDC, would moving advancing/retarding by each 3 degrees require the seals be changed by 2mm to maintain the same spray pattern on the piston bowl? Then, jumping to the 3930324s would keep the spray pattern identical at 14 degrees.
 
If the piston travels 0.666mm per degree of crank

That is a seemingly logical jump to the wrong hypothesis I think. The piston moves at a varing rate because of the eccentric position of the rod journal. At the top and bottom of the stroke, the crank moves several degrees with very little up and down movement of the piston. At the center of the stroke the piston is at its most rapid travel.



To calculate what you are considering, you would have to remove the head and measure the movement in the range you are considering and compensate accordingly. But the piston bowl will be in practically the same place. Exact compression, turbulence / flame progression, and other factors will be of more importance than spray pattern relative to the bowl position.



Probably the most effective process is to test HP with the various shims and different advance and then decide from that. Even that will allow some variable to creep in if you can't control ambient air pressure and temperature during the entire test.



I would be more inclined to think that the different thicknesses are for machining differences between the various parts involved. Again, you would have to measure the depth of the injector and then with some run/test time to compare performance, make a decision as to what is best for your application.



As I note from the posts, some owners really like the smoke. Others want HP and nothing else. Some are quite satisfied with the noise of a straight exhaust. Pick your poision. Just start with a first gen Dodge.



1stgen4evr

James
 
Something that I have noticed when going from the 2. 5mm to 1. 5mm (besides throttle response) is exhaust temp is about 100F higher when cruising empty. Also, exhaust smoke is no different for me, I barely have to touch the fuel pedal to move down the road at 65 mph, and this appears to be reflected in better fuel mileage.



In a week of just driving to work, I've used less than 1/4 tank. I usually suck a tank dry in 7 days. That's important now that diesel is hanging around $2. 20 for this area.



Just found out my 0. 5mm seals arrived at Cummins. I may have to give them a shot.
 
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