Installing Our New Quadruple Disc Torque Converter, MONDAY.

[KOOPDADDY]

Ok, enough w\ the Supra Vs. Viper stuff. The converter is in, and it is amazing. The low end power is AMAZING. The little turbo lag I felt before has been replaced by torque multiplication, resulting in zero lag. Lockup apply is buttery smooth. This converter is WAAYY better than any triple disc that I have ever had. If you have more questions feel free to PM me. One last note on the Viper, we have a TT Viper in Scottsdale (Hennessey) it has 1300 miles on it. It was brought in the shop for multiple problems on the install. The frame was cut to allow the piping to cross thru. The injector harnesses are all broken, this is just a few of the problems. Well the car was at Ed Moses Dodge for a month, finally the customer picked it up. 3 weeks later it came back on a flatbed. This time, covered in a white haze. The car caught on fire!!

 

[KLockliear]

Let's get off this transmission thead... we can continue over here:



https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1119832#post1119832

 

[Cooker]

The little turbo lag I felt before has been replaced by torque multiplication, resulting in zero lag.

Could you please explain this comment? If you had turbo lag before and you do not now I'm understanding that as the new convertor you installed is less efficient unlocked?

 

[KOOPDADDY]

Simple, the new stator that is being used has greater torque multiplication qualities than that of a stock Dodge stator. Thus, the converter is more efficient at MULTIPLYING engine torque to make up for both a little turbo lag and a greater rotating weight of the converter. It is simply amazing what this thing does to both smooth out takeoff and also to increase low end torque FEEL.

 

[KOOPDADDY]

I will be posting pics of the rear cover, clutch setup, we cannot however post pics of the stator as their are lots of people out there wanting to figure out just what we are using and copy it... When you see the pics you will see why it performs so well

 

[hasselbach]

Simple, the new stator that is being used has greater torque multiplication qualities than that of a stock Dodge stator. Thus, the converter is more efficient at MULTIPLYING engine torque to make up for both a little turbo lag and a greater rotating weight of the converter. It is simply amazing what this thing does to both smooth out takeoff and also to increase low end torque FEEL.

I'm wondering if the new TC is loading the motor sooner, causing the turbo to spool up faster since more load is applied to the motor (more load, more heat, faster spool up)



What is the stall of this new unit? Any pictures of the insides? are you using a cast or machined stator? sound neat, I hope it goes well.



As a side note, I wonder why DTT does not like using a billet front cover, but the other two do. I had a great call with DTT, and they were pretty adamant that the stamped cover for the front of the TC is the better way to go. . Just curious.

 

[torkin]

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=12866&width=2



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smoop

 

[South Bend Clutch]

I saw you guys talking about Toyota Supras early in this thread and I thought you might like to see ours... ... ... ... http://www.dxdracingclutches.com/home.html



She is running over 1000hp with everything turned on. We have to do some repairs on our parking lot black top.



Peter

 

[GWoody]

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smoop

K, Smoop, spit it out boy, you got me wondering what the story behind the pic is, don't be shy, give us the low down!!!!!!!!!! :-laf :{ :-{}

 

[justinp20012500]

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=12866&width=2



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smoop

I guess thats what i get for leaving pictures in my gallery...



Just kidding...



Anyone can buy that stator. It was based of the factory stator. The P# is 10142.



I have about 400 left and more coming. Tony Garson and few others run this stator. Very good daily driver and tower, but lacks a little on the drag strip. But coupled with any multi disk converter it performs flawlessly. Smoop, did you see a picture of one of your stators?? Very low stall, great on the strip in a single disk!!!



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DTT's Stator. Very effective on low stall!! I had this in when I was drag racing. I would couple my TC with a DTT trans any day of the week!! They have the right stuff to make the trans bullet proof. I just didn't like the way their stall was sooooo low.



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Here is a suncoast stator i tested.



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Here is the stocker.



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Inside of my front cover. All machined out ONE piece billet steel.



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Here is the frictions.



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Here is ths the 10142. the stator that is a lower stall then stock, but pretty inexspensive...



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Here is the piston.



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Here is the front side of the front cover. (Bolts to the flex plate)



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The reason a lot out there are using my stator is the cost effectiveness.



Keeps the cost of a whole unit down to benefit(SPL) the consumer.



Justin-

 

[torkin]

Thanks Justin, your converter looks rock solid. I can appreciate all the hard work it takes to get there. I referenced the old 4 friction tale in an earlier post, but it got deleted. I guess some prefer tranquillity over truth.



Could you get just a plain paper to lay my stator on? :-laf



Smoop

 

[justinp20012500]

Thanks Justin, your converter looks rock solid. I can appreciate all the hard work it takes to get there. I referenced the old 4 friction tale in an earlier post, but it got deleted. I guess some prefer tranquillity over truth.



Could you get just a plain paper to lay my stator on? :-laf



Smoop

No problem... Didn't mean to get that in the pic, just had it to give it to someone who wanted thier phone number.



I know what you mean about the four friction. There has been some little redesign work done to it. The friction on the clutch that splines to the piston cannot count as a locking surface. So it is a true 3 disk unit.





PS, I would also run a suncoast trans too. Some of the fast street legal trucks have the suncoast trans. Rich Gillett has said some great things about you guys, and the products your company produces.



psps... I have no affiliation with any transmission company, or torque conveter manufacturer.





Justin-

 

[jsimpson]

That's sick! Drive it!

 

[jsimpson]

Justin, which TCwould you recommend for a mild engine (400-450hp) that will give me a considerably lower stall speed and lessen that huge rpm drop at lockup? I tow a 34 foot fifth wheel occasionally, but never race (unless you count traffic light acceleration contests).

 

[justinp20012500]

Any milti disk converter with a 10142 stator, or similiar.



When you have a trailer (Like yours, 34 ft camper = 9000lbs???) and a low stall TC it is very hard to get the load moving. Lets say you come to a stop on a slight grade and you need to get going again. With a very low stall it is hard to get going in a decent amount of time without putting on a huge smoke show. On the other hand a lower stall tc will help you keep the lockup clutch from burning, but that is only the case when you are using a single disk TC.



When I had a low stall stator in I had a hard time backing my boat up my inclined driveway.



A low stall stator is at home on the drag strip, just a little challenging in everyday traffic.



You can use a moderate stall stator in a TC when using a multi disk and not have to worry about burning up the clutches. (I think smoop would agree with me on that one. )









Justin-

 

[jcarey]

Call me sloooooooooooow!

Could you get just a plain paper to lay my stator on?



But I just got that... :-laf :-laf :-laf

 

[JRG]

Is Tony Garson the one with Dunrite?



JRG

 

[TWojahn]

I would like to know how this special staor and 4 disc converter worked out. What makes this stator so special?

 

[justinp20012500]

The stator i very cheap "By that i mean in price, not quality" I makes the cost of the overall unit less expensive (Much better word) he stator is manufactured by ICM machinery.



The stator works well because it has a low enough stall to put "power to the ground" and a high enough stall to let the turbo spool quickly. BUT, if you were going to try to use this stator in a 550 HP+ truck I would advise against it.



It works great for towing!!!





Justin

 

[soslow91]

Sounds like a fun ride Koop. I have a customer with a Supra here in town that will run just about anything on the highway. He likes the top end stuff. Lemme know if you ever get to Vegas.

If your talking about the guy I think you are I would think his vanity plate would discourage most people seeing as it answers the question what happens when you put over 800whp and a chubby trans in and old style supra thats as light as a dodge dart