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It's not. This is direct result from the emissions cheating. I work for a German automotive company, there are, and have been a lot of panic moves by various companies in Europe.

The US is business as usual. They are still using high profile vehicles moving to the us manufacturing market to hide they are still in progress of expansion of outsourced manufacturing.
 
I agree with that statement, design, development, testing all take time. Then you have the whole aspect of manufacturing which has an entire laundry list of logistics way above my pay grade. Which makes me think this rumor of no more diesel (if true) is a result of the direction we were headed under Obama and most certainly under HC if she were elected.
I'd personally be surprised if FCA axed diesels, the leg work has been put in the tech is much improved. And gas engines as we know them are quickly approaching the ceiling in terms of efficiency. I believe there is more to be rung out of diesel yet. Hopefully they stick around.



I mostly agree with all of this.
A design or trend is established in a company, and it's moved toward production, exactly like that article outlines for FCA's future, then once a course is plotted, politics can very well alter those plans. I think GM has had its eye on Diesel for a while, and they had a round in the chamber so to speak. Once Trump stuck up for capitalism and making America great again, GM pulled that trigger.
FCA and these others want to kill Diesel. I'd wager a meal that if the EU and the folks dictating these policies did a 180, and dropped all charges, All these plans would be scrapped, and it'd be back to normal.
And about FCA, I don't think these kill Diesel plans pertain to the Cummins ops, but I do think the VM engine is in jeopardy.
 
Its nice to see so many people openly accept that wildly propagated and misguided environmentalism is controlling their everyday lives. Not sure why those same people cant easily see that the "solution" to the "problem" is somehow always fixed with throwing copious amounts of money at it.....I mean someone.
 
Hi Wayne

I hear you.
Dont think to much about FCA at all, all that Diesel rumor is only in Germany, no where else in Europe. And FCA doesn't sell many Cars in Germany. Germns dont lime italian Cars a lot. Sure it is still smoldering in press but not so much as two years ago. The only thing that happens to VW Group Diesel Cars is an ECU Update and thats it, no buy back, no out of traffic by law, no money for owners or anything else. Just an Update and thats it.
To the planned restrictions, that is also not entirely new in Germany, they have City Restrictions since 10 years or so, Red, Yellow and Green Stickers according to the pollution class of the vehicle. Now they plan a Blue Sticker for limited areas. So well it doesn't change all to much for Diesel Owners. Euro 1/2/3/4 have been banned already (Red and Yellow Sticker), new the Euro5 will be banned too, newest Euro6 Vehicles get the Blue Sticker.
 
And another note, the Chrysler Group is the cash cow of the FCA Group, in europe they hardly earn money with the Fiat Brand because the economy in the southern countrys like italy, spain, france, greek is so weak and down people don't buy new cars.
So FCA needs the money that Dodge and especially Jeep flows into the Group, without it FCA would go bankrupt within a short time.

So we can also be sure that FCA doesn't sell the Jeep and Dodge brands in the closers future. Well, from my sight, nothing will change in the next few years.
 
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