I've Trashed a NV5600

[LEPage]

I guess these 6 speeds aren't indestructable after all. Coming to Pa. from Iowa last thursday all was going well, 6th gear, cruise set on 75mph, PMCR on 3/3, & EZ on 3, at just over 26,000 GCW. Came into Pa. on I-80, rolling through the hills, suddenly starting up one the fuel started to come one & so did an awful sound. Thought I was hearing things at first, but it got worse. Dropped back to 5th, & all seemed well, back to 6 & no good. After 25 mi. in 5th we pulled in a rest area to have a look, started comming down through the gears, and 4th was bad also. By now I was wishing I'd have let it ride in 5th, with only 160 miles or so to go, but I had already commited to the exit ramp. Sounded rough at an idle with the clutch out, but all looked dry. Rather than pay someone to tow us in, we decided to try to get back out and in 5th. I wouldn't have bet on it, but we got through 1st - 4th, all 4 sounding BAD, but still 5th was good. At 66k plus, I started digging for the warranty book, and the news was good, we're just under the 7/70 with $100 deductable. Went to the dealer today to have a look in the PTO cover & what a mess. Of course the NV5600 is on backorder, but at least I'll get my Luk Ceramataullic in without paying labor.

 

[jwilliams3]

Did you ever change fluid in it?

 

[TboneMan]

I realize this has been discussed many times on this site, but what makes you think this damage should be covered under warranty? You are obviously modified and overloaded.

 

[nickleinonen]

I realize this has been discussed many times on this site, but what makes you think this damage should be covered under warranty? You are obviously modified and overloaded.

what the dealer doesn't know won't hurt them maybe?????



it is a little dishonest, but worth a shot i think in getting it fixed for $100

 

[LEPage]

Yes, the fluid was changed & documented by the dealer that changed it 4 months ago. This transmission was not thrashed, just worked hard, as I tow heavy and alot. Towed at the same weight with a '97 5 speed for 150k, with TST #10 plate, with no problem except the 5th gear fell off. This 6 speed should handle it easy, & there are alot of guys towing A LOT heavier and more than I.

 

[CATCRACKER]

my buddy is on his 3rd 6speed. . that ought to tell you the transmission is not unbreakable he pulls some heavy loads at high speeds with lots of power. this is what can break anything.

 

[DPelletier]

I guess these 6 speeds aren't indestructable after all.

Nothing is indestructable.



Dave

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

"I realize this has been discussed many times on this site, but what makes you think this damage should be covered under warranty? You are obviously modified and overloaded. "

what the dealer doesn't know won't hurt them maybe?????



it is a little dishonest, but worth a shot i think in getting it fixed for $100

AH, the battle cry of the "closet swindler" - let's bomb the hell outta the truck, tow heavy and hard - and if anything DOES blow, we'll see if we can't just screw the dealer on the warranty...



I have no doubt where this will lead - nothing angers a streetwalker more than CALLING her one - and likewise, nothing bunches the undies of a would-be swindler more than calling him one...



Yeah, these NV-5600's CAN be busted in extreme situations and use - as appears to be the above case - the later Cummins engines with mods listed on that truck are WELL above ratings for the 5600 or the G56 - and towing hard and heavy with a significantly modded engine is starting down the slippery road to disaster with ANY of the trannies DC currently offers.



Whatever happened to taking PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for our actions and questionable choices?

 

[SMorneau]

When you guys find something indestructable you let me know I want one whatever it is.



If I got this right 5th gear is direct drive so a lot less is going on in the transmission. Some say this is your best gear to pull in.



Scott

 

[hasselbach]

what the dealer doesn't know won't hurt them maybe?????



it is a little dishonest, but worth a shot i think in getting it fixed for $100

I disagree, way overloaded, way modded, and screwing the dealer hurts us all. I can't believe how many of you mod the hell out of your truck, then expect the dealer to pay for the damages caused by too much torque, then slam the dealer when they question the coverage. .

 

[jwilliams3]

Be careful the Moral Police have now put you under arrest... :-laf

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

Be careful the Moral Police have now put you under arrest... :-laf

How strange and twisted our society has become!



If you catch a mugger in the act, you used to be expected to help the victim.



If someone is seen robbing a store or bank, you used to be expected to call the police.



YET, when a member HERE openly admits his intention to defraud a dealer out of work or parts to which he is clearly - and sometimes ADMITTEDLY unentitled, we "good citizens" are supposed to either applaud him, or meekly and silently just look the other way?



IF a guy will STEAL from a dealer by use of fraud, why would he not do the same to YOU in some future dealing?



When some of you guys openly brag about defrauding your dealer - regardless of your claimed justification for doing so - do you stop to THINK about what you are telling all readers about YOUR character and honesty?



Would YOU trust such a person to watch over your valuables while you were away on vacation?



And MORE to the point, WHY is it that the few of us who RESIST and oppose obvious dishonesty regardless of WHO is doing it, have in our present day "social morality" become the "bad guys", while the CHEATERS have become the respected heros?



OK, if HONESTY makes ME a "bad guy", so be it - *I* wouldn't have it ANY other way!

 

[hasselbach]

I'm going to print up GARY's above post and put it on my bulletin board.



AMEN.

 

[mberry]

Well said Gary. I did what I did to my truck fully knowing that I would be responsible for repairing it if something I did caused the failure.



I am not a member of nor a supporter of the "morality police". I try to live by a very simple rule: "Live your life so the preacher doesn't have to lie at your funeral. "

 

[RustyJC]

Reminds me of what my dear old departed Dad always tried to teach me when I was growing up many years ago:



Your reputation reflects what you do when others are around.



Your character reflects what you do when you're alone.



Times change, I suppose.....



Rusty

 

[KOOPDADDY]

PS, your warranty should not cover this repair. It sounds as if you ran low on oil... . 5th gear is direct drive in this trans, that is why the noise goes away for you in 5th. When you run low on oil the first thing to go is the input and countershaft. You definately have this problem. .

 

[GFrance]

I full heartedly agree with Gary. When I had just 1,000 miles on my truck I bombed it & became my own warrenty station. When people defruad a buisness it hurts us all. When a buisness defrauds a customer it hurts them.

 

[klenger]

Reminds me of what my dear old departed Dad always tried to teach me when I was growing up many years ago:



Your reputation reflects what you do when others are around.



Your character reflects what you do when you're alone.



Times change, I suppose.....



Rusty

Times do change, but not ethics and morals, only our implementation of them change.

 

[TX Gooseneck]

I blew mine at 146,000 miles. I was relatively stock (just intake/exhaust) but pulling what I pull, load wise, I knew at some level it was coming. Paid my $3k, went on down the road.



Warranties and people using/exploiting them are the same across many lines. When we've had warranty claims on our trailers, the customer swears up and down that they were not overweight when it happened. Had a guy who blew out some tires. His trailer was rated at 24,999lbs (GVWR), he had 24,000lbs ON the trailer, was running his tires under pressured and honestly shocked when the tires exploded. I tried to explain that 24,999 was not the capacity weight, it was the combined weight. By choice or ignorance, he would not get it - Warranty Denied.

 

[RustyJC]

Times do change, but not ethics and morals, only our implementation of them change.

... or imparting those ethics and morals on succeeding generations, which was my point.



Forgive me..... just the musings of an old man.



Rusty