J.C. Whitney sound deadening.

[lpearson]

Was looking in my newest J. C. Whitney mag as saw some sound deadening pad type stuff. Price seemed a lot lower than other products I've seen.



Anyone used their sound deadening products? Any good?



Lowell

 

[y-knot]

Lowell,

I too saw their adds and was considering it's use. The price was cheaper then most other name brands, but not the much cheaper to risk being burned. I have started a very intense effort to insulate the cab interior from unwanted heat and noise. I want to cut down on road and exhaust noise, along with the heat that is transfered while towing. I decided to use a name brand product, I am very serious about the effort I am putting forth and wanted a brand that was committed to the cause as I am. I decided to go with Thermo Tec Cool It. They make several insulating mats both with and with out heat barriers. I have used "The Insulator" super insulator mat for my trucks interior. It is very well made and comes with a heat barrier both front and back. I installed this material under the carpet of my truck, it more then doubbled the amount of factory insulation. The job is very easy, and only takes a few hours to complete. Hardest part is getting the front seats out, it takes two people. But with it removed, the job goes smooth and fast. I bought all my supplies from Jeggs, they are a high performance mail order store that I have used many times, the service is truly grate and the prices are some of the lowest around. To do the complete cab on a extended cab truck it takes two (2) of the super insulating mats, they run 35. 00 each.

Hope this helps some, I know it was not the answer to the question you asked. I am still in the process of finishing my project, I also decided to do more insulating in the engine compartment and under the truck, so I have a few days to go. Good luck on your project.

 

[lpearson]

Originally posted by y-knot

Lowell,

I too saw their adds and was considering it's use. The price was cheaper then most other name brands, but not the much cheaper to risk being burned. I have started a very intense effort to insulate the cab interior from unwanted heat and noise. I want to cut down on road and exhaust noise, along with the heat that is transfered while towing. I decided to use a name brand product, I am very serious about the effort I am putting forth and wanted a brand that was committed to the cause as I am. I decided to go with Thermo Tec Cool It. They make several insulating mats both with and with out heat barriers. I have used "The Insulator" super insulator mat for my trucks interior. It is very well made and comes with a heat barrier both front and back. I installed this material under the carpet of my truck, it more then doubbled the amount of factory insulation. The job is very easy, and only takes a few hours to complete. Hardest part is getting the front seats out, it takes two people. But with it removed, the job goes smooth and fast. I bought all my supplies from Jeggs, they are a high performance mail order store that I have used many times, the service is truly grate and the prices are some of the lowest around. To do the complete cab on a extended cab truck it takes two (2) of the super insulating mats, they run 35. 00 each.

Hope this helps some, I know it was not the answer to the question you asked. I am still in the process of finishing my project, I also decided to do more insulating in the engine compartment and under the truck, so I have a few days to go. Good luck on your project.

I am interested. Do you have a phone # or web link?



Did you notice any reduction in noise so far?



I have done a exhaust pipe wrap, but haven't noticed any noise reduction, what are you planning to do under the truck?



Thanks,

Lowell

 

[Jeff Clark]

Lowell, dig around on e-bay for sound deadener. I priced a name brand at a local car audio shop for almost $8 a sqft. On e-bay it was half. I bought an off brand for a buck a sqft. Worked good. I would like to buy some more and add a few extra layers. I'm adding a good sound system so I'm trying to quiet the cab as much as possible.



If you go with the JC Whitney stuff, let us know your findings.

 

[y-knot]

I just started my soundproofing attempt this week, I ordered from Jeggs and Summit last Friday after comprising a list of needed materials. Yes I can tell the difference, today I ran the truck to get the exhaust hot to allow the wrap and other materials to shrink-up. I only had the truck running at idle, with several blimps of the throttle, but the difference is very noticeable. I got most of the cab floor finished today, and by Sunday the truck will be complete. I wraped the trubo,exhaust side with a multi-layer wrap topped off by a aluminized heat resistant barrier. Then built a simular cover for the down pipe, that covered from under the Pac-Brak to the first muffler (areo). Then another cover for the area between the turbo exhaust to the Pack-Brak. I also covered the two inter-cooler pipes to keep the heat away from the charged air system. The AC lines were then covered, to keep them cool, and then I insulated the AFE intake air box. The purpose here was to keep the heat away from the air intake. For the exhaust manifold, I fashioned a blanket type cover out of Cool-It's header wrap. Everything I used can from Thermo-Tec Cool-it, I used there 1" and 2" header wrap,Thermo-sleeves,insulation,heat berries, and so forth. Everything I have seen and used from them is of very high quality, and I would definitely use it again. I have thought about doing this project for several weeks, and planed out what I wanted to accomplish, and what I needed to get. Everything has gone smoothly, and along the way I even added a thermo/sound barrier to be mounted above each muffler. I just finished tonight, Fed-ex came late, the rear shield. I used Flowmaster aluminum heat Shields, and then added two layers of heat wrap, one layer of aluminized insulation, all covered by a thick heat proof (2000 degree) layer of header blanket. I think they will work great at absorbing noise and re-directing heat. I took some pictures today as I got some of the pieces finished and or installed, I'll post them some time this week.

The whole job is nothing anyone else couldn't do themselves, just takes time to fashion the pieces and apply the materials. If you think this might be something you might want to try, believe me it's easy and it will work. I have spent about 750. 00 dollars so far, and that isn't so bad considering the rewards.

 

[lpearson]

Originally posted by Jeff Clark

Lowell, dig around on e-bay for sound deadener. I priced a name brand at a local car audio shop for almost $8 a sqft. On e-bay it was half. I bought an off brand for a buck a sqft. Worked good. I would like to buy some more and add a few extra layers. I'm adding a good sound system so I'm trying to quiet the cab as much as possible.



If you go with the JC Whitney stuff, let us know your findings.

Jeff,

Thanks for the info, I'll check out e-bay. I'm not looking to spend a whole lot, just want to quite down the cab somewhat. Wife complained about the noise. I don't mind it, but a little les would be OK.





Lowell

I am just in the "Gathering info" stage right now

 

[lpearson]

y-knot,



Thanks for your post. Man, I guess you do have a plan. I'm not willing to spend anywhere near $750. though. ; but I understand if you really want a quiet cab, it makes sense.



Let us know when your done and pic's would be nice.



Lowell

 

[y-knot]

Ipearson,

Yes I do plan of improving the performance and comfort, and like anything else it cost money. You need not spend anywhere near what i have to reduce the noise level in the cab. I have a extended cab and it took 48 sq/ft of sound barrier insulation, to do the cab complete side to side and front to back. Grand total of $70. 00, and it all came from Jeggs. The brand I used was Thermo-Tec Cool-it, and the product was "The Insulator" Super insulator part number 900-BLIP12406-B, it comes in 48"x72" sheets and take 2 @ 35. 00 each. It is simple to install, cuts with HD scissors and works. It more then doubles the factory insulation and provides a heat barrier too.

My main expense was for the high temperature (2000 degree) materials, they are wonderful and provide great heat protection and isolation, but expensive. Good luck with your efforts, this is a picture of what the material looks like.



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[y-knot]

Finished the project this weekend and got some pictures for you. Also the underhood temps have droped enough to make it a success. The lower intake pipe to the intercooler has lost right at 200 degrees, and the air box is down 150. I haven't gotten time to do any more temp readings. The inside noise level is tremindously lower, my wife and I took a drive and we can easily talk now, where before you had to shout. The inside is so well insulated that the truck seems unusually quiet, road noise and outside activities are filtered out, I love it.



Insulated AFE air box

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Right side of engine with all the covers and heat barriers added

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Left side with charged air intake wraped

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[lpearson]

Originally posted by y-knot

Finished the project this weekend and got some pictures for you. Also the underhood temps have droped enough to make it a success. The lower intake pipe to the intercooler has lost right at 200 degrees, and the air box is down 150. I haven't gotten time to do any more temp readings. The inside noise level is tremindously lower, my wife and I took a drive and we can easily talk now, where before you had to shout. The inside is so well insulated that the truck seems unusually quiet, road noise and outside activities are filtered out, I love it.



Insulated AFE air box

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Right side of engine with all the covers and heat barriers added

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Left side with charged air intake wraped

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Nice Pic's! It's amazing how much you temp's dropped. Congrats.

I think all I want is a quiter cab. Do you have a number for your supplier? I'll try to find them on the web.



Thanks,

Lowell

 

[lpearson]

y-knot,



I found Jeggs on the web, called them, and asked for the part # you gave. The person on the phone said they didn't carry it. So I think I will look up thermo-tec cool-it.



Lowell

 

[Jeff Clark]

I found these Thermo-Tec products on Jeg's website and I think they may work.



893-13500: 12"x12" sheet $9. 99

893-13575: 12"x24" sheet $17. 99

893-14001: 10sqft sheet $75. 99



I think I'm going to try some on mine, maybe underneath so I don't have to pull the carpet out again.



See if that helps ya' Lowell.

 

[Jeff Clark]

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=31207&prmenbr=361



Here's the link for the part Jeg's said they didn't carry.

 

[y-knot]

I bought all the supplies from Jeggs, and that catalog number is stright out of the catalog. The Thermo-Tec brand is great and I wouldn't hessitate useing them again. Also, the lower sound levels in the cab are a very welcome change. I have had this truck since new and that is the quietest it has ever been.

I looked out my shipping ticket, and the part number from that is 0900blip12406-B, and 34. 99 a pack. Good luck

 

[lpearson]

Well, after all of this I decided to order the "Heat shield- stop noise insulation from J. C. Whitney. A friend of mine with a regular cab Cummins and I talked about it this morning so we ordered enough to do both trucks.



I got the "Bulk Roll" which is 48"x 24 feet. for $79. 95 (the 48"x72" was $26. 95), also got 2 large cans of Heat Shield Contact Adhesive and 150 feet of Heat Shield Aluminum Tape. Total bill was 113. 80 with shipping 14. 99, but got a 15% discount for an order over $99. 95. Soooooooooo



Total bill shipped to my door for TWO trucks is $111. 72



If I got taken or it doesn't work-----------------I will be sure to post about it. For $56 I can do the floor, doors, under the hood and ???? , so if it's no good I'll be OK.



Here is the advertisement for the insulation

1. Stops noise and Heat

2. TWO layers of pure aluminum relect a higher percentage (97%) of radiant heat that any other material known!

3. Temperature resistance tested at -40* to 700*

4. Fiber tech padding helps deaden noise and adds a cushion of comfort underfoot

5. Laminated-on 3/8" thick fiber tech padding

6. Padding is also fire retardant

7. Fiberglass reinforcement adds strength.



Thanks for all the advise guys.



Lowell

 

[lpearson]

Originally posted by Jeff Clark





I think I'm going to try some on mine, maybe underneath so I don't have to pull the carpet out again.

I was thinking about doing this very same thing. The carpet pad in my truck is fine. If one can put it on the bottom of the cab why wouldn't that do the same thing, plus that's where the heat shield is anyway?



Those that have done it may have contrary advise, ---that's OK. I will listen and learn.



Thanks,

Lowell

 

[lpearson]

Anyone done under the headliner? Is it worth the problems. Seems that most sound and heat come from underneath.



Lowell

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

What is your advice on this, did it all work out for you guys that installed the sound deadener? Curious, might do mine in the near future. Thanks