The Ohio River is up right now and has my creek backed up. I'm pretty sure I could cross it if I wanted to, but I still have plenty of beer for me and food for the dog, so I don't need to get across and all is well. My point being is that where I am it is fairly rugged, and reliability and functionality are my two highest priorities. I try to buy stuff that works right, not just looks cute. If it happens to look good like these new Rams do, then that's just a bonus for me. My ole 2001 CTD had 85000 miles on it when I traded it. The only thing I ever had to touch on it was to change one of the license plate light bulbs... . no brake jobs needed, no leaks, nothing. I just didn't like the auto trans for my needs, or I never would have traded it. If this 2003 is half as reliable, I'll be very satisfied. I already realize the 4X4 part of it is far improved form my 2001. This is coming from a person who was never a fan of Chrysler, but I have to admit they are impressing me of late. Of course, dropping the Cummins in their trucks was a stroke of wisdom for sure. Sorry... I just can't help bragging on my new truck!