Just installed new McLeod clutch...

[dieselburner]

I just finished installing my new dual disc Mcleod clutch which I purchased from Jim Leonard in Riverside. He had me install two washers under the pivot arm to get the release right on the clutch discs. The new clutch is working great with none of the problems or side effects that I have heard about these clutches. The shifting is easy into and out of any gear, with the truck moving or stopped. There is no 4th gear grind that some were talking about or any noise in any other gear. I accelerated and got the boost up to 40 psi (not floored) and there was no sign of slipping. Also, there is absolutely no jerky take off with this clutch that I read about. So far very happy with my new "feature". (That's what the wife calls it) #ad
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1998 2500 Quad Cab, 12V, 5spd, 4x4, HD Transfer Case, 370HP Diamond B Injectors, #4 TST, 16cm2 Housing, AFC Spring Kit, BD Governor Spring Kit and other governor modifications, Walker Muffler, 285/75-16 BFG AT's, Stainless Steel Tube Steps, Reese Fifth Wheel Hitch, Leather, CD, LSD Dana 80 Rear, 60 Front, McLeod Dual Disc Clutch, Rancho RS9000 Shocks, Rancho Steering Stabilizer, ATS Exhaust Manifold, Psychotty Air Induction, BD Exhaust Brake, Enterprise Engine Delivery Valves

 

[Forrest]

Ah, a feature is it dieselburner? #ad
Now here's another good reason to be on the TDR ... wife convincing buzz words. #ad


Jim installed mine & I took it easy for a couple of days. We went back 10 to the coast & up to San Simeon, then to Reno. I didn't start to turn up the boost until we got to Reno. Just making sure all was broken in ok. So far, nada a complaint from me. #ad


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Money Sink - 96, 5 speed, TST 380, HX40-16, 300 HP Injectors, Scourge BD 4200rpm Governor kit, McLeod, 4", CATless, straight out back, chrome turn down, ISSPRO Pillar, Delvac 1 & Amsiol, K&N, Mag-Hytec, 3:54, Michelin 235s on Alcoas, Rancho 9000's, Valentine One.
Dutchmen 27' 5th Wheel.
GoldWing.

 

[TKemper]

I installed a Mcleod this past fall. I'm not convinced it was worth the $$$ It chatters, unless I launch at around 1700 rpm's, is difficult to engage 1st gear, and transmits excessive torsional vibration through the driveshaft. The pedal pressure is great, and it doesn't slip, no matter how hard I launch or how repeatedly. But , I've been considering switching to a Centerforce. Mainly because of the driveline noise.

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97 2500HD 4x4 ST 12v, K&N, 16cm turbine housing, recalibrated pump, Geno's man trans filter, McLeod dual disc clutch, LSD with 3. 54's and Amsoil, AGR power steering box and pump, Borgeson steering shaft, Skyjacker 2" leveling kit, Rancho RS9000's, dual RS5000 steering stabilizers, AR Outlaw II wheels with 33x12. 5 Bridgestone Desert Duellers, Lund visor, Ventvisor window shades, Glasstite HiRise cap, aluminum tailgate protector, illuminated bumper guide poles, Cobra CB, Wilson 5000 antenna, Alpine CD, Infinity spkrs, Fosgate amp with 8" Bazooka tubes, Hayes elec brake controller and Husky floor liners. 16. 247 @ 87. 52mph quarter mile at 6700lbs

 

[Hammer]

Ok since I'm new here tell me why these clutches are rattling,,One thing I know is I got talked into a Centerforce(should have done more reasearch in this buy)and it has got to go,,I am going to replace it soon as my mildly tuned up ride will power right thru it in 4th and 5th gear at times,,I also am in search of a quality piece so I am curious,without starting over the clutch wars,which is better and why?,,The Centerforce is fairly new(less than 10,000 miles) and is to unpredicable,one time it hooks and flies ,the next slippage,,I'd like to not waste my money a second time so any help is gratefull.

 

[TKemper]

Hammer, Check out issue 30 page 38. It explains why the McLeod transmits a buzz or rattling in the driveline, especially at low rpm, low load. Talks about other clutch designs as well. Todd

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97 2500HD 4x4 ST 12v, K&N, 16cm turbine housing, recalibrated pump, Geno's man trans filter, McLeod dual disc clutch, LSD with 3. 54's and Amsoil, AGR power steering box and pump, Borgeson steering shaft, Skyjacker 2" leveling kit, Rancho RS9000's, dual RS5000 steering stabilizers, AR Outlaw II wheels with 33x12. 5 Bridgestone Desert Duellers, Lund visor, Ventvisor window shades, Glasstite HiRise cap, aluminum tailgate protector, illuminated bumper guide poles, Cobra CB, Wilson 5000 antenna, Alpine CD, Infinity spkrs, Fosgate amp with 8" Bazooka tubes, Hayes elec brake controller and Husky floor liners. 16. 247 @ 87. 52mph quarter mile at 6700lbs

 

[massdiesel]

Hey guys i had a centerforce in my 96 spun that with no problem spent the cash on the mccleod and the noise sucks but i havent slipped it yet with 400h. p towing 25k i just did two round the clock trips to fla from boston to florida and didnt miss a beati have put like 18,000 miles of foot thr the radiator abuse too so spend the coin u will love it

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99 24v auto 3500 4x4 reg cab 3. 55 axle,ez edge,275 injectors,k&n,rhino lining, tinted glass, tonnoue cover heavy duty trailer tow set up goose neck hitch draw tite brake setup,cb,cd player,catz back up lights,amsoil frnt to back,jre exhaust4 wire blue box,bd exhaust brake,transgo shift kit, a pro torqe extreme convertor, and a magtec trans cover and trans guage,JRE fuel line kit,upgraded fuel pump,braided fuel lines from lift to injector pump,reflashed ecm,fuel pressure guage,3 guage pillar,boost&pyro

 

[dieselburner]

Originally posted by massdiesel:
Hey guys i had a centerforce in my 96 spun that with no problem spent the cash on the mccleod and the noise sucks but i havent slipped it yet with 400h. p towing 25k i just did two round the clock trips to fla from boston to florida and didnt miss a beati have put like 18,000 miles of foot thr the radiator abuse too so spend the coin u will love it

massdiesel,
What kind of noise are you getting? I don't have any noise with mine at all. Did it get noisy after it broke in or did it start right away? I only have about 100 miles on mine so far but am very pleased with the way it operates. Hope it doesn't get noisy.
Steve

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1998 2500 Quad Cab, 12V, 5spd, 4x4, HD Transfer Case, 370HP Diamond B Injectors, #4 TST, 16cm2 Housing, AFC Spring Kit, BD Governor Spring Kit and other governor modifications, Walker Muffler, 285/75-16 BFG AT's, Stainless Steel Tube Steps, Reese Fifth Wheel Hitch, Leather, CD, LSD Dana 80 Rear, 60 Front, McLeod Dual Disc Clutch, Rancho RS9000 Shocks, Rancho Steering Stabilizer, ATS Exhaust Manifold, Psychotty Air Induction, BD Exhaust Brake, Enterprise Engine Delivery Valves

 

[TKemper]

dieselburner,

I got the noise as soon as I installed the Mcleod. It's a resonating type of noise/vibration coming through the driveshaft. I've got a reg cab longbed, the driveshaft is fairly long, and the front yoke has a vibration dampner/harmonic balancer on it. Do you have this type of driveshaft? While I had the clutch out, I had the driveshaft checked. That balancer was a little loose. So I replaced the front yoke/balancer asembly at about $300, put in new ujoints, and had the shaft high speed balanced. I've had the noise since day 1 of install. It's noticeable at very low rpms with little to no throttle input and very noisy under load between 1600- 1900 rpms. Above that and the noise isn't reeally there. Is there anybody else with this clutch and similar driveline setup experienceing this type of noise? Todd

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97 2500HD 4x4 ST 12v, K&N, 16cm turbine housing, recalibrated pump, Geno's man trans filter, McLeod dual disc clutch, LSD with 3. 54's and Amsoil, AGR power steering box and pump, Borgeson steering shaft, Skyjacker 2" leveling kit, Rancho RS9000's, dual RS5000 steering stabilizers, AR Outlaw II wheels with 33x12. 5 Bridgestone Desert Duellers, Lund visor, Ventvisor window shades, Glasstite HiRise cap, aluminum tailgate protector, illuminated bumper guide poles, Cobra CB, Wilson 5000 antenna, Alpine CD, Infinity spkrs, Fosgate amp with 8" Bazooka tubes, Hayes elec brake controller and Husky floor liners. 16. 247 @ 87. 52mph quarter mile at 6700lbs

 

[Champane Flight]

Are your yokes in phase?

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95 Dodge 2500 Luverne grill guard,headache rack,running boards and Amzoiled. Soon to be mildly bombed. 84 Dodge d-150, 318 Hooker headers,Edelbrok intake,mallory ignition,Carter Afb,Accel coil,and Custom dual exhaust. Boat,fifthwheel,motorcycles,and shop. 72000 as of 3/1/01,not even broke in yet. Old Dodge 126000 miles and running better than new.

 

[TKemper]

CF a driveline shop did the work. He's been in bisness a long time. How can I check?

 

[dieselburner]

Originally posted by the terminator:
dieselburner,

I got the noise as soon as I installed the Mcleod. It's a resonating type of noise/vibration coming through the driveshaft. I've got a reg cab longbed, the driveshaft is fairly long, and the front yoke has a vibration dampner/harmonic balancer on it. Do you have this type of driveshaft? While I had the clutch out, I had the driveshaft checked. That balancer was a little loose. So I replaced the front yoke/balancer asembly at about $300, put in new ujoints, and had the shaft high speed balanced. I've had the noise since day 1 of install. It's noticeable at very low rpms with little to no throttle input and very noisy under load between 1600- 1900 rpms. Above that and the noise isn't reeally there. Is there anybody else with this clutch and similar driveline setup experienceing this type of noise? Todd

terminator,
I always had a vibration in my truck at very high torque levels in 4th gear when I was pulling my fifth wheel. Total weight with the trailer is 21K pounds and in 4th it would resonate the entire truck. But that was with the Centerforce. I am guessing that the springs on the Centerforce were maxed out under that kind of load and transmitting all of the shaking through the driveline. So far I haven't had a chance to pull with the new clutch so I don't know what it will sound like under a high torque load but it will probably resonate just as bad as the centerforce. For everyday driving the McLeod is as quiet as the stock clutch and it shifts better than the Centerforce did. By the way, I have the two piece drive shaft in mine. Been thinking of going to the 1 piece because I thought some of the vibration was coming from the carrier. It would also eliminate another joint.
Steve

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1998 2500 Quad Cab, 12V, 5spd, 4x4, HD Transfer Case, 370HP Diamond B Injectors, #4 TST, 16cm2 Housing, AFC Spring Kit, BD Governor Spring Kit and other governor modifications, Walker Muffler, 285/75-16 BFG AT's, Stainless Steel Tube Steps, Reese Fifth Wheel Hitch, Leather, CD, LSD Dana 80 Rear, 60 Front, McLeod Dual Disc Clutch, Rancho RS9000 Shocks, Rancho Steering Stabilizer, ATS Exhaust Manifold, Psychotty Air Induction, BD Exhaust Brake, Enterprise Engine Delivery Valves

 

[Champane Flight]

Just look at the position of both front and rear yokes. They should be lined up the same. If one or the other are different,they are out of phase. Had a freind of mine who was putting his in and instead of taking it out of gear and rotating his driveline to bolt up rear yoke,he pulled it out of the splines and lined it up shoved it back in. That thing had a he11 of a vibration.

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95 Dodge 2500 Luverne grill guard,headache rack,running boards and Amzoiled. Soon to be mildly bombed. 84 Dodge d-150, 318 Hooker headers,Edelbrok intake,mallory ignition,Carter Afb,Accel coil,and Custom dual exhaust. Boat,fifthwheel,motorcycles,and shop. 72000 as of 3/1/01,not even broke in yet. Old Dodge 126000 miles and running better than new.

 

[TKemper]

CF, I've got a solid one piece driveshaft. No slip joint, the front yoke is splined and slides into the tailhousing. Everything looks A OK. Thanks. Todd

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97 2500HD 4x4 ST 12v, K&N, 16cm turbine housing, recalibrated pump, Geno's man trans filter, McLeod dual disc clutch, LSD with 3. 54's and Amsoil, AGR power steering box and pump, Borgeson steering shaft, Skyjacker 2" leveling kit, Rancho RS9000's, dual RS5000 steering stabilizers, AR Outlaw II wheels with 33x12. 5 Bridgestone Desert Duellers, Lund visor, Ventvisor window shades, Glasstite HiRise cap, aluminum tailgate protector, illuminated bumper guide poles, Cobra CB, Wilson 5000 antenna, Alpine CD, Infinity spkrs, Fosgate amp with 8" Bazooka tubes, Hayes elec brake controller and Husky floor liners. 16. 247 @ 87. 52mph quarter mile at 6700lbs