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Driving a 2004 5. 9 and wondering:



Many I talk to think the K&N Air Filter is the hot setup. Is it really and is it worth it? And while we are on the subject of mods, what about a replacement exhaust vs. the stock?
 
If you are running a stock truck leave it alone and drive it. The only thing you will need to do unless you have is go to the intake fuel pump
 
A very good source for Genuine Cummins Fuel Filters, Air Filters, Oil Filters etc. is your local 18 wheeler repair shop and your local farm implement dealer, I buy mine from my local Case dealer.
 
Every Dodge/Cummins powered that I worked on that had a K&N style AF had LOTS of GRIT on the intake turbo blades and on the inside of the pipe from the AF to the turbo.
 
The filter I use is the Mopar 4" pleated filter part # MO-249 if I rember correctly. It is pictured on the right beside the smaller Mopar filter it replaced.



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As far as the exhaust is concerned, I have a Silverline 304 stainless 4" on my '07 and an MBRP 304 stainless 4" on the '04. 5. No real performance advantage over the factory exhaust, but I intalled them almost immediately on ours since the factory systems don't last around here with the road salt.





By the way Greytraveler, welcome to TDR. If I read your info correctly, you are from Lake Tahoe. One of my favorite vacation spots. :)

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I replaced stock filter with a K&N and clean it with their solution ,then reoil it as instucted. If intake is dirty before turbo its like intake on all our equipment. Its not gritty dirty just ,well a huge amount of air goes through it each minute ,same with our backhoe diesel and you can find a light film at the intake on it also. Just curious where all this bad info comes from on filters because I find even on our commercial gas motors a dirty film before the throat going in but, we run our stuff all day. I mean you have lubrication in heads ,combustion and a lot of heat ,and my guess is you will always have a threshold of particles that are burned up that doesnt mean its going to score cylinder walls or damage valves. Incidently just a week ago I popped out my K7N filter and alonside it a mouse had built a nest. The mouse chewed the wires on the outside of filter and gave up trying to chew its way through the filter. Had that been a paper filter I would have had catestrophic failure by sucking all that into inner cooler and turbo. Mouse did the same thing on a VW diesel motor I had and instantly sucked everything into the intake and heads. I junked the car for lack of time to tear it down but the mouse had chewed all the way through the paper filter and had a big nest. Anyway.
 
I ran the KN on my last Cummins for a while but soon found out it let a lot of fine dust through. This was with a new filter that was oiled by K&N so it's not like it had been over/under oiled and damaged by using compressed air to clean it.
I cleaned out the intake, wen't back to a paper filter and never saw the dust again.

GardnerM, the paper filters have an metal screen on the eng. side to prevent rodents or anything else from getting through and to keep the pleats from distorting and being ingested. http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=2221856&cc=1413470

Scott
 
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Take the subjectivity out of it. Just compare the ISO 5011 filtration efficiency test results. Keep in mind when reviewing this data the significance of small differences in filtration efficiencies. If three (3) filters with ISO 5011 filtration efficiencies of 99. 9%, 99. 0% and 96. 0% are subjected to 100 grams of test dust, each filter will allow the following amount of dust to pass into the engine:



99. 9% efficiency - 0. 1 gram

99. 0% efficiency - 1. 0 gram (10 times as much)

96. 0% efficiency - 4. 0 grams (40 times as much)



Caveat emptor.....



Rusty
 
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