K&N Warranty?????????

[illflem]

Maybe their warranty is such because they realize people may not install and service the filter correctly,something they have no control over and shouldn't have to be responsible for.

 

[Lil' Dog]

I challenge you to find any filter product fuel or air or otherwise that will cover mechanical failure. That type of warrenty is not available here on earth, for the afore mentioned reasons.

J-eh

 

[hammersley]

Lil' Dog

I picked this up from the Fram Web Site: Well I understand what you say - it looks like Fram will replace an engine found defective because of their filter. Now proving that may take some effort, but at least you have some basis for a starting point.
http://www.fram.com/partscat_fram.html

Honeywell Inc. warrants to its commercial customer that its
FRAM filter products will be free from defects in material
and workmanship under normal use and service, provided
said products are changed within intervals recommended
by the manufacturer of the engine on which the FRAM filter
product is installed, and provided said products are
properly installed according to Honeywell Consumer
Products Group's instructions. In the event any FRAM filter
product is found by Honeywell Consumer Products Group
to be defective within the manufacturer's recommended
change intervals, Honeywell Inc. 's sole obligation under this
warranty shall be to repair any such defective article or
engine which is damaged as a direct and sole result of a
defective FRAM filter product.

 

[Lil' Dog]

Hmm, interesting. How does Baldwin stay in business then? My brother-in-law (own business in HD mechanics) has a few Cummins engines that failed due to those filters. The media from the filters plugged the oil nozzles to the piston cooling and the pistons cracked and siezed. No warrenty coverage by Baldwin thats for sure.
Like you stated its proving it, but still not much to rely on.
K&N has been around for a long time and is offered under warrenty in the Mopar catalogue for their engines. They must have proven themselves to Mopar at least, not to mention all the racing teams in all kinds of motor sports using their product. Personally I am not the least bit worried about the K&N, heck its saved me on the filter elements 10X over.

J-eh

 

['956Wheel]

Oh no... #ad
not the kn thing again #ad
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. I hope they replace my lawn mower when its sillycon levels rise so high that it grows mamarys akin to those hot little tramps you see on the boob tube.

How can my truck run so well for over 150,000 miles with that crappy stinking stock filter? The first owner was a horseman and much of his driving was dragging around two "hayburners" to the hills without the BIG advantage of that super lawnmower filter! #ad
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On oil analysis. . what about the "TAN" #'s (acidic measurement)... VERY important! GLYCOL is another facet of these analysis that will destroy an engine. I would like to see TBN's shown too... without the complete test results shown you ain't got squat.

I would like a bro to e-mail me test results so I can study it... yes I enjoy the gain of knowledge. Too much yapp'in an no bite!

I just do not understand the necessity of these tests as my uncle Jack put 478,000 miles on a '94, all stock, taking trailers from manufacturer to dealer, (hard miles).

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[illflem]

Stat,if you or uncle Jack have an all stock rig you don't need a K&N,stick with the paper one.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

You have to realize that LOTS of users of K&N filters either use them in heavily modded race engines, or in competition such as off-road and dirt track where paper filters wouldn't last a single race - K&N understandably won't provide a open-ended warranty in those types of situations any more than makers of the OTHER high performance parts used in those vehicles! Can you imagine a circle track or drag racer taking his broken crankshaft back to the maker for a refund because he broke it while racing? WHY would K&N do any different when they KNOW a high percentage of their filters will be used in highly hazardous situations completely outside "normal" operation? Yeah, their filters are good, as is the company - but they're NOT stupid!

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[hammersley]

Steve McDaniel wrote with regards to an earlier thread on Fram Filters:

Go to Fram's website and read their warranty. Then go to K&N's website and read their warranty. Compare warranties on all your maintenance items. You'd be surprised who has
faith enough in their own product to warranty the engine from damage from their product
and who doesn't. In writing...

Well I have a K&N and sure enough I looked at the WEBSITE and well to say that I am unimpressed with the warranty is an understatement! I thought that filter manufactures would warranty mechanical failure caused by their products. This is what the website says:

The K&N WEBSITE STATES:

EXTENT OF WARRANTY:

Any defective Filtercharger® element properly returned to K&N will be replaced by K&N. K&N will not be responsible for any other expenses incurred by the customer under the terms of this warranty, nor shall it be responsible for any damages either
consequential, special, contingent, or otherwise; or expenses or injury arising directly or indirectly from the use of the
Filtercharger® element. Any Filtercharger® element returned to K&N must be sent at customers' expense along with a
completed Warranty Claim Card and proof of purchase. K&N reserves the right to determine whether the terms of the
warranty, set out above, have been properly complied with. In the event that the terms are not complied with, K&N shall be
under no obligation to honor this warranty.

Am I missing something here regarding warranty? If their product is so good. why doesn't their warranty cover damage? I know that it must be serviced properly - is this the stumbling point. I would think a warranty could be provided assuming proper service - whatever that may be.

 

[Steve M]

Not trying to start an argument. Just wanted to throw that little tidbit of thought into the stew. If you study NASCAR, you'll find that they used to use oil gauze filters. After it was discovered that several blown engines were caused by tiny clumps of dirt breaking away from the filter media and being sucked into the motor, scoring cylinder walls and burning pistons, NASCAR went back to using paper filters no different than the ones we buy at the autoparts store. I'll agree that the K&N flows more air but, I need my truck to last more than one race before a rebuild. Just my ever so humble opinion not to be forced on anyone else. It really is ok for each of us to have our own opinions about a subject. That's what's so great about this country. #ad


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[This message has been edited by Steve McDaniel (edited 02-15-2001). ]

 

[Royal]

A lot of manufacturers warranties are known as " Tail LIGHT WARRENTIES", when your tail lights are out of sight of the salesman, your out of warrenty. !!!!!!

 

[willyslover]

Repeat after me. . I AM MY OWN WARRANTY STATION
now that you have that correct BOMB on and don't worry about a usless warranty... if you can't be your own warranty station then stay stock and enjoy what you have... #ad
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[Brandon]

Through the years of trading horses we have developed and fine tuned "The driveway garantee" Thirty seconds or thirty feet which ever comes first!!!!!!

B

seriously any manufacturer will warrant their product no matter what the written policy says if you drag it out long enough


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