Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) KDP Jig

[Dbonzi]

Just bought a 95 and wondering how to get a hold of a Killer dowel pin jig (KDP)

Thanks

Dennis

 

[Jefff929]

Here the local TDR group has a few we pass around. I think there is a few that guys have and loan out or let folks barrow at Bomb parties. You might check with your local club.

 

[Bob V]

Might want to consider doing the tab insted, much better and not a lot more work. You can get the parts you need at Cummins for under $30. 00 (you don't need the gasket).

 

[tp0d]

The NorthEast KDP Jig kit is available for immediate use...

PM me for more info

-j

 

[bigwalt]

tpOd - I've been trying to find out who fabricates this jig? I want to probably buy one - my buddy here in MA wants to use it on his truck - then I plan to take it up to Alaska this summer to fix the pin on my daughter's truck. Can you email me info on who to contact to get cost, etc my email is -- email address removed --



Thanks

 

[tp0d]

bigwalt, first, welcome to the TDR! glad to have ya

I believe you need to find TDR user name "CPFF" He is the one who designed and built all the original jig kits, as far as I know.

His user page is here : https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/members/3517.html

As for cost, I dont know an exact, but someone told me somewhere around 300$? i dunno

good luck

-j

 

[CumminsPower98]

I personally would never use the jig method. So many times the cover needs to come off anyway as there are loose bolts inside and out and the seal and or cover are usually leaking. Also if you have a loose bolt inside and it falls out (not common but has happened) you can have similar or worse damage. I have done about 6 of these things and the bolts inside and out are never all up to torque (18 ft. lbs. ).



Standard procedure for me is to pull the 4 bolts inside the case, clean, loctite and torque. There is a 5th in there but it can't be pulled due to the cam gear being in the way. I bend a wrench and sometimes slide the cam out a little to get this one tight.



When I tabbed my truck years ago (my first one) I didn't touch the bolts inside other then the tab bolt. Years and many miles later I had a leak between the gear case and block so I pulled the cover and tightened things up in there, which stopped the leak.

 

[bigwalt]

Thanks for your thoughts - actually I was thinking the same (wondering what the possibilities were that some of those bolts might work themselves loose). I haven't seen any comments on web forums about one of these bolts shaking loose and falling out -so I think the probability of this happening is low. Do you know if during the factory build of the engine they used a threadlock compound on these bolts?



About how many hours did it take you to do the fix using the Tab? From what I've been told - using the jig takes less than an hour to do the fix (as long as the dowel pin is still in place and will allow you to insert the blocking screw in front of it) If that's not the case - then the timing gear cover has to come off to do a tab fix.

 

[CumminsPower98]

I'm not 100% sure if they have locker on them from the factory or not. I know they are always easy to get out so if they do its not enough. I agree that it would be rare for a bolt to fall out. I have read on these forums of it happening at least once. Its been a while since I did one but if I remember right I think I usually charged for 4. 5 hours. May seem like a long time but it takes time if care is taken to pull all the bolts to clean them and the holes well and do all the other stuff such as clean up of the cover and housing but I feel its worth it to do all that rather then just the tab. Oh and that time includes making the tabs.