Here I am

Kewl stuff

Attention: TDR Forum Junkies
To the point: Click this link and check out the Front Page News story(ies) where we are tracking the introduction of the 2025 Ram HD trucks.

Thanks, TDR Staff

Emergency Help

Not Impressed

Well, at least to me. We were on the range yesterday and had some free time, so we decided to test a expired Point Blank vest. We retire our vests after 5 years of service, so there's always a few lying around the P. D. Anyway, we set the vest up at 25 yds. and proceeded to shoot same with . 40 caliber Talons, 5. 56mm, 12 ga/ slugs and a . 300 Winchester mag. We drapped the vest over a brown bag which had newspapers in same. The vest was rated at level 2, without a trauma plate. Here's the results...



Test 1- . 40 cal. Talon fired from a Glock 22 @ 25 yds.

The bullet entered the first two layers of kevlar and then mushroomed and stopped.



Test 2- 12 ga. Remington slug @ 25 yds. (one oz, 2 3/4" shell). This was a suprise. The slug tore through the entire front 20 layers of kevlar and wedged itself midway into the 15" + stack of newspapers. The recoverd slug was a complete mushroom.



Test 3- 5. 56mm fired from a Colt AR-15, again @ 25 yds. No suprise here, the bullet smashed through the front of the vest and proceeded to self destruct within the newspaper, we could only find small parts of the bullet jacket, the core completely disinegrated. The bullet was a 55 gr. softpoint, would have liked to try a FMJ, but none were at hand.



Test 4- . 300 Wichester mag. fired from a Savage Tactical rifle (24" bull barrel), again at 25 yds. Again, no suprise, the bullet smashed through the front of the vest and all the newspaper, enetered the first two layers of kevlar at the back of the vest and then completely disinegrated, only small portions of the jacket were recovered. This bullet was a 150 gr. softpoint (PMC). Again, a FMJ or better yet, a Speer or Barnes solid probably would have blown through the rear as well.



I thought that you other LE or gun enthusiasts might be interested.



Scott W.
 
Last edited:
I saw a Second Chance training film years ago that mirrored your findings. Additionally, the vests do very little to protect against jabbing type knife attacks however, they faired pretty well against moderate slashing attacks.
 
John, if it's the one I viewed, Rich Davis (I believe that's his name) putting on a vest with a phone book underneath and then shooting himself in the chest with a . 44 mag revolver ? INSANE.



The new vests that we are getting now are stap resistant. They brought in a vest for us to check out, Point Blank I believe, level 2, which withstood repeated direct blows from a ice pick. Barely even penetrated the first layer of Kevlar, or whatever they are now using.



Scott W.
 
Last edited:
:eek:

well, now any unsavory types "eavesdropping" on the 'site here know what to shoot you with :eek:

the rifle bullets might be survivable (not by me!), but the slug must have been real unappetizing :eek:
 
DOH!!!!!!!!!! I scrubbed my face with a washcloth, now I look like this. Everyone says that PeeWee Herman looks just like me, hehehehehe



Scott W.
 
Whoa! Too much lift! That looks so tight I'd bet that when you blink your eyes your butt squeeks. :D

My friends say I look like a crosse between Ron Howard and Howdy Doody.

PeeWee Herman with a badge and a gun! Dude, your killing me! ROTFLMAO!
 
Michael, body armor is rated in threat levels, from the least protection to more protection the levels go as follows: Level 2a, Level 2, Level 3 and beyond... Level 2 or 3 is what most PD's purchase for their officers, the standard being that the vest must be able to stop what ever caliber the officer carrys, at a minimum. Level 2 wil stop most common handgun cartridges, the trauma plate which goes in the front of the vest will stop some rifle cartridges, but not most. Hope this helps.



Scott W.
 
Back
Top