Kore Chase with Welds/Toyos - Worth $6000?

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

lightman,

I went for a ride in the 7100/chase truck yesterday. First ride for me in that type of truck. I was pretty amazed. I had serious doubts about the system prior to my ride. Not that I didn't think it was properly put together but, I am very spoiled by my custom racing system. The truck handled a pot holed, washboardy type of road like a true Kore system. I think that everyone needs to know that the Pace system is designed for on road use. Kore had Bilstien custom valve the 5100 shocks for them only. You cannot purchase this shock anywhere else with the custom valving. The Chase is designed for towing/light off road use. The valving in this shock is custom also. Kroeker tested and tested and tested to get it correct. The Race is designed for extreme off road conditions. I know you think that I am biased because of my relationship with Kore. Give Diesel Dan a call and talk to him. He has had a Bilstien 7100 system for over a year.



Greg

 

[Fred Swanson]

LightmanE300, the 5100's are more than enough for mostly on road activity. Under normal driving conditions on regular surface streets, it does ride better than stock. The occasional railroad track crossings, or dips are handled much better than stock.



I've driven on a few roads mainly there in Columbus, and I'd compaEe them to several bad roads here in Phoenix, and the KORE will make the trip better than the stock setup.



I don't have flat open desert right in my backyard, but I do have bad 2 lane roads, and miles and miles of surface streets to traverse daily. I have a mix of 2 lane, highway, and inner city streets to travel everyday to work, which is 30 miles one way.



All I can say is that I am more than pleased with the system, and would do it again in a heartbeat.

 

[SGlock]

I know I am getting in late, but I offer the following:



I took delivery of my '05 3500 SRW QC CTD on Christmas Eve. I have since put 2k miles on the truck, half with the stock suspension and half with the Kore Pace system. I was fortunate to have understood the price increase schedule and ordered my goods before the end of the year. I have the Weld wheels but am still waiting for the Toyos to come in. At this point, I am still running the stock 17" polished rims.



I had an '03 2500 HEMI truck and loved the ride. Likewise, I had driven 3500s before ordering mine and had no real issue with the ride. However, I wanted to address the low-nose stock suspension. This led me to investigating options, looking at lift kits, reading about death wobble, etc. I had several lengthy phone conversations with Kent and, based on HIS recommendation, ordered the Pace system. The limited off-road use my truck will get will be on slow speed mountain trails and construction sites. Even the stock suspension should handle that; this system will only improve things. Otherwise, it will be hauling, towing, and simply driving empty. All things considered, the Pace system seemed to be the best fit for me, regardless of price. Kent also aknowledged that the stock rims are very nice, although his are lighter. That decision came down to look and my desire to be a little different (at least here on the East Coast).



As far as my dealings with Kent and SarahMae, they have been extremely friendly, professional, and low pressure. When my package shipped out, the rear shocks were temporarily out of stock. I communicated regularly with SarahMae on the schedule. She was very helpful. After the system install, I called to report the truck was not level. I was initially concerned that I had received gasser springs. After a couple of e-mail and phone conversations, I better understood that the mini-packs actually raise the rear by an inch or so. After I put the Weld/Toyo combination on, I might pull a spacer out of the mini-packs. I'll decide that later.



The ride improvement is huge. I travel interstates and many back country roads in rural Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. I no longer hop around on the back roads. I also recently mounted my 8'-2" BOSS V plow for a couple of days of snow cleanup. I could definitely feel the difference in suspension travel; I actually had some left compared to the stock setup.



I would/will do it again. In my opinion, this is among the best money spent on my rig!

 

[Diesel Dan]

Pumpkineater,

The reason you have been attacked is twofold. First off you say it is overpriced and you have never seen it, felt it or experienced it. What a crock . Every Kore chase/race owner knows the value of this product. You are an off-road guy and a brotherin and this stuff is just so trick. When i opened the box and had one of the shock towers in my hand. I was in AWE. It looked like it belonged on a class 8 race truck. Secondly, When you say overpriced you insult Kent and SaraMae. Two of the finest people on the face of this earth. If you ever get the privelige of shaking Kents hand, or getting a hug from SaraMae you will be better for it. They are in no way making any big money in their business and do it because they want the best possible products for our trucks. Regardless of what it costs. They gambled 200 large ones to get the Wheels for our trucks to be perfect. Do you have the guts to do that? You just say it is overpriced. Please be quiet They could have just got some thing that was close, put their name on it and sold it to us. This is not how they work. If it isn't perfect after they abuse the ***** out of it, It doesn't become part of their product line.



Is a Ferrari overpriced?????? You can get a Corvette for 1/5 of the price and both will do 175mph. Take a look at a Ferrari up close or on a lift and then answer the question.



What about a Rolls Royce at 8 times the price of a Cadillac. both will travel down the interstate at 70 mph very nicely. Did you know that RR puts all of their engines on a Dyno and runs them for 20k miles than completely disasembles them and mike's all tollerances and if they are not perfect they throw it away and start over.



This is what Kore is to Dodge rams and we should thank our lucky stars for it.

If it is more than you need, fine. Please just accept that it is expensive.



I have to disagree w/ Greg on one part. I feel that the Chase system is a heavy duty off road system. I abuse this truck as often as i can. The difference is i do it at 35 mph not 75 like wild-man Boardman. The ride and handling on the street is amazing. Smooth yet firm, while eating every bump or pothole it comes across The Chase system is in my opinion, The best system avail for the majority of the customers out there. My guess is it is the best seller for Kore.



Anyone is welcome to call me( including Pumpkineater)

@949-454-9144



Best regards



DD

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

That number would be 80 MPH Burley!!!

 

[Bertram65]

Pumpkineater,

The reason you have been attacked is twofold. First off you say it is overpriced and you have never seen it, felt it or experienced it. What a crock of *****. I guess you don't realize how foolish you appear. Every Kore chase/race owner knows the value of this product. You are an off-road guy and a brotherin and this stuff is just so trick. When i opened the box and had one of the shock towers in my hand. I was in AWE. It looked like it belonged on a class 8 race truck. Secondly, When you say overpriced you insult Kent and SaraMae. Two of the finest people on the face of this earth. If you ever get the privelige of shaking Kents hand, or getting a hug from SaraMae you will be better for it. They are in no way making any big money in their business and do it because they want the best possible products for our trucks. Regardless of what it costs. They gambled 200 large ones to get the Wheels for our trucks to be perfect. Do you have the guts to do that? You just say it is overpriced. Please STFU!! They could have just got some thing that was close, put their name on it and sold it to us. This is not how they work. If it isn't perfect after they abuse the ***** out of it, It doesn't become part of their product line.



Is a Ferrari overpriced?????? You can get a Corvette for 1/5 of the price and both will do 175mph. Take a look at a Ferrari up close or on a lift and then answer the question.



What about a Rolls Royce at 8 times the price of a Cadillac. both will travel down the interstate at 70 mph very nicely. Did you know that RR puts all of their engines on a Dyno and runs them for 20k miles than completely disasembles them and mike's all tollerances and if they are not perfect they throw it away and start over.



This is what Kore is to Dodge rams and we should thank our lucky stars for it.



I have to disagree w/ Greg on one part. I feel that the Chase system is a heavy duty off road system. I abuse this truck as often as i can. The difference is i do it at 35 mph not 75 like wild-man Boardman. The ride and handling on the street is amazing. Smooth yet firm, while eating every bump or pothole it comes across The Chase system is in my opinion, The best system avail for the majority of the customers out there. My guess is it is the best seller for Kore.



Anyone is welcome to call me( including Pumpkineater)

@949-454-9144



Best regards



DD

Maybe Kore makes great stuff, good for them, good for you if you like it. A couple of you guys are just a little too obsessed with it. You like it great, others may not, everyone is entitled to input thier opinion.

 

[Loaded 45]

Who looks the fool - Diesel Dan? Whats a phone Mumber ? Alot of people talk big over phones also, so whats that prove.

Those that spend big bucks for mods are biased and will defend said product to the end good or bad. The original question is it worth the money? Everyone has an opinion on what they feel is worth spending hard earned dollars on. bertram45 had every right.

Want my address ?

 

[jrobinson2]

I don't think you're going to be able to tell much of a difference. Bilstein 7100s for a road driven vehicle is major overkill anyway. The 5100s will be fine, if you want reservoir shocks use the 5150, it has a piggyback reservoir that is smaller and they're much cheaper than the 7100s.

I ran a set of 5150's on the rear for a few months last year and was not impressed, even with the stiffest valving available they are very soft and not much control at all with a load, empty they had a fairly nice ride but would get a bit bouncy on uneven roads, towing a 7500 lb bumper pull trailer was not fun at all.

Jared

 

[LightmanE300]

Again Dieseldan, thanks much for your input but I value punkineater and everyone else's input as well. Please don't keep stirring the pot - you've made your point, you don't think he should call it overpriced because he hasn't tried it. Ok, thank you, point made.



I've driven plenty in phoenix, and the roads aren't even CLOSE to as bad as cleveland roads. Not sure about columbus, but our roads are awful. Remember around election time all that talk about cleveland being the poorest city? It's certainly reflected in our roads :-laf



I'd still like more input on Chase vs Pace in on road manners. I am the type that sometimes hits the railroad tracks, or just awful roads faster than most folks find comfortable, but again, I don't live near any deserts where I can really let it rip.



The money isn't really the concern honestly, I just want to get the best system for my use.



Thanks again for all the replies - it's such a help. I love this forum!

 

[blake underwood]

I have to disagree w/ Greg on one part. I feel that the Chase system is a heavy duty off road system. I abuse this truck as often as i can. The difference is i do it at 35 mph not 75 like wild-man Boardman. The ride and handling on the street is amazing. Smooth yet firm, while eating every bump or pothole it comes across The Chase system is in my opinion, The best system avail for the majority of the customers out there. My guess is it is the best seller for Kore.

DD

Mr. Boardmen, -This one's for you, since you just recently rode in a Chase truck, and you drive a Race truck.



This is an interesting point. Can you say the Chase system performs the same way at 35 MPH as the Race system does at 80 MPH?

 

[onesloryd]

LightmanE300,

I have been considering the KORE system myself; and after many phone calls to Kent & SaraMae I have decided to go with the Chase system. One of the main reasons is the rear mini pak. Both Kent and SaraMae have been more than helpful over the phone.

Matt

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

Blake,

The Chase system performs as good or even better than the race system on the hwy and the moderate off road situations. Over the same terrain, heavy whoops, jumps, g-outs, and the such, there is no compairison. The Race is the way to go for that stuff. That is what I call the 80 mph stuff. For most people the Chase system is overkill..... ! A great system designed for off road at speeds much slower than the race system.



Greg

 

[hasselbach]

Wow one differing opinion and I'm attacked faster than a powerstroke owner over on Dieselstop. Lightman, I hope I at the very least offered a small amount of insight and provoked some additional thought. What it boils down to is that it's your money and therefore ultimately your choice. I wish you nothing but luck and be sure to post pic's when you're done.

Punkineater: Try posting that you think the Allison transmission is better than a 48RE, or to set up a race with some ricer (who incidentally didn't show up on Sunday night as previously arranged) and see how fast the posts turn against you. . I got no less than 5 death threats (PM'd to me), and dozens of PM's that were pretty offensive, rude or just down right bad.



Hey, here's the deal for those crying about the measly $250 increase in wheels. You can:

1. Spend less time on the internet, and get a better job to afford the $250.

2. You can exercise your freedom and buy someone else's wheels for less.

3. You can design your own and charge whatever you feel is the right price.

4. Or you can cry about how its too much money and if you buy the Kore kit you won't be able to make your trailer space rent this month.



I have the Kore system, and its worth every penny if not more. (ps, I still think the Allison is superior too, regardless of the nasty PM's)

 

[Punkineater]

DieselDan, the only person throwing insults on this board is you. I have not thrown personal insults, verbal attacks or anything even similar. I simply stated my opinion and you as well as others on this board can take it or leave it. I don't need to experience the Kore to know that it does not fit my needs and no it is not too much suspension for me either. Frankly, I don't blast across the deserts and when I do venture offroad I do it in the rocky mountains or in Southern Utah and pure clearance is the issue in most cases. Being as the Kore system does not give me adequate clearance it does not fit my need in that respect. As I have said before, I do not question it's capabilities for its intended purposes. I do say that there are viable alternatives for those who do not have or want to spend the price it commands. That's all. For all those who have dragged this into a ******* match and all out attack against any non-Kore supporter I just have this to say... ... ... . get over it. Sometimes people don't agree and that's life. Everyone who is a contributing member to this board has the right to post whatever comments or opinions they have regarding any viable discussion on this board. I pay a yearly fee which protects that right as well and DieselDan so do you. I have not once told you to shut up or tried in any way to take away your same freedom so please don't attempt to take away mine. Grow up and try and take a more mature approach.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

or to set up a race with some ricer (who incidentally didn't show up on Sunday night as previously arranged)

Hasselbeck, seems you were the no-show :-laf https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121238&page=10&pp=15



If you genuinely received death threats I hope you reported it to the moderators. That's a serious matter.



Vaughn

 

[Doubleclutch]

6 months ago was 2004. Nothing doesn't change. I'm happy with my set-ups for the above reasons, and would do so again. Had a bad Bilstein on the 4. 5 (slow leak@ schrader valve). Got replaced in a heartbeat. No questions, only appologies. These are quality people putting out a quality system. Their cost increases need to be passed on to us, or more correctly, to those still shopping. Still worth it because everything else goes up accordingly. "Hyped"... I don't think so. Try driving over a curb at 70 mph in any other truck without visiting your dentist afterward.

Greg... the other Greg

Glasses on order

 

[hasselbach]

Hasselbeck, seems you were the no-show :-laf https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121238&page=10&pp=15



If you genuinely received death threats I hope you reported it to the moderators. That's a serious matter.



Vaughn

We were there on Sunday night at gate #2 at the LV track at 12:30 (late Sunday night, early Monday morning) like we said we would. The day before our planned meeting (Saturday) the boys with the ricer posted that the meeting was Saturday night and that I didn't show. Too bad I didn't sit glued in front of the computer to notice. For some reason, its hard for many to comprehend that some of us only spend a few moments on the computer a day reading TDR material. Saturday is a busy day for us which is why we didn't set it up for a Saturday night run. No calls were made to me either, although they claimed that they called me. We placed numerous calls on our end (with no phone number blocking), and always got into Garth's Video Company vmail, which we left numerous messages. Then I get messages saying we are supposed to run this off in the middle of the day because of the dangers of hitting a rabbit at 200 in the dark. If that was an option we might as well invite LVPD to institute crowd control and traffic control. I guess there are many here that really don't understand that you typically don't hold these events in broad daylight on city streets. We've done it many times near the track at midnight, and have had no problems. Not once have we ever seen a rabbit in the location we run (nor just about any form of life period)

Regardless, I could care less what all the kling-ons are saying and therefore won't visit this post going forward. Plain and simple, we showed, got stood up, and a lot of very nasty and rude responses were sent afterward.

 

[hasselbach]

Return of The Turd Burgler!



I cannot believe the sheer volume of fecal matter that spews from your pee brain. It will be very obvious if you have had threatening PM's. The board administrator should be able to pull them from the archives and slap the idiots sending them. That is assuming you were telling the truth, which for you seems impossible. Your daddy should have pulled out sooner.

Yeah, maybe that's why they linked over the the other web site where my name is and used that forum to PM me. I think you were one since I received something very similar in language (turd burgler, fecal. . etc).



Caveman, thanks for the nice response. I'll forward this to the mods. I'm tired of your arrogant, not called-for responses (and threats too?). Maybe the mods will do what they should have a long time ago, bounced you.

 

[Caveman]

Yeah, maybe that's why they linked over the the other web site where my name is and used that forum to PM me.

Are we going to hear about how they sent you threatening telepathic messages next? You're making very serious accusations here about other peoples actions and I intend to follow up with the other forum admin. Again you do not understand what I do for a living.

I think you were one since I received something very similar in language (turd burgler, fecal. . etc).

Nope, I voice my opinion publicly. All IP addresses are captured by these boards and can be traced in case you feel I was hiding under some alias or using computer witchcraft or something.

I'm tired of your arrogant, not called-for responses (and threats too?).

What threat? Where? This is why we make fun of you. Nothing you say is legitimate.



I think I have made my point. It was amusing while it lasted.

 

[Caveman]

I found the original thread on this same site

https://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120788&page=6&pp=15

So, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Same site, different forum.

Yeah, maybe that's why they linked over the the other web site where my name is and used that forum to PM me.

and I believe you threw the first punch here

After reading your post, I can only surmise that living in Ohio has taken its toll.

If you start something expect recourse