latest rumblings on the NEW TIMING BOXES?

[Floor It]

I have a feeling that the TST box will be the first real big power box out. They are supposed to get a few out before christmas.



John

 

[XcumminsX]

i think ill have to wait untill march to buy one i am not taking any chances with this truck :{ . i think i may just get ddIII for now

 

[Elite1]

Where I live we have about a 2 mile stretch of freeway that goes up a very steep hill. (the Conejo grade) This kind of seperates the boys from the men. I was driving up it the other day and a powerstroke and a Dodge V10 wanted to play, I left them both in the dust. After we reached the top and then were going down hill the V10 pulled up next to me... . you should have seen his face, he couldn't believe he just got smoked by a little 6 cyl. diesel. I'm telling you guys, this Volumizer kicks some serious booty.

It is amazing how the diesel industry has progressed, who would have thought 10 years ago that a diesel would kick butt on a 300 HP V10?

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Greg, I've been pretty happy with my Bully Box, I'm glad to hear B-Dog got yours ironed out. Mine hasn't ever set a code.



I actually took my box off though, I thought I saw what could be slight leakage around one fuel line fitting and that scared me. I'm thinking about selling it and put it on the classifieds.



Vaughn

 

[4xquadrod]

New Edge.

I am going to wait for the new Edge product.

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

Steve,

I will bring the Bullydog on Saturday... ... Wanna Try It???????

 

[fencebuilders]

Try it

Originally posted by Greg Boardman

Steve,

I will bring the Bullydog on Saturday... ... Wanna Try It???????

I aint Steve,but i want to try it If the offer stands that is. Although Twenty nine Palms is a long way from Sacramento

 

[RankRam]

Re: Try it

Originally posted by fencebuilders

I aint Steve,but i want to try it If the offer stands that is. Although Twenty nine Palms is a long way from Sacramento

If you make it to Sacramento swing by Carson City, Nv. I wanna try it too.

 

[Chris Wilkerson]

Well after reading through this forum I would like to add my 2 cents. I have had the Quadzilla 0-70-140 on my 03 for around 5 months or so. I have had a couple minor problems nothing to really get concerned over. Today I spent part of the day at TST and made 5 or so runs on their DYNO and was happy with the results.

The Quadzilla box with a few other mods made decent numbers 0-setting 318 HP @ 2880 RPM 587 Tq @ 2800 RPM as you that know that is not stock, 70-setting 355 HP @ 2800 RPM 764 Tq @ 2200 RPM and 140-setting 387 @ 2760 RPM & 848 Tq @ 2040 RPM. Without the box unplugged from the truck it made around 500 Tq and thats all the info I can give. I do not have any info on the new TST CR Box to give you. I will say that as of when I left there shop I'm 110% convinced that their box will be on my truck as soon as its available. Thanks Mark for letting me play on your DYNO. If you are still not sure what box to try look hard at TST the proved to me that they are making the HP and TQ numbers.



Happy Holidays

Chris

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03 Dodge Q/C 2500 HO 4X4 6spd

 

[Tomeygun]

Originally posted by Extreme Diesel

Well after reading through this forum I would like to add my 2 Thanks Mark for letting me play on your DYNO. If you are still not sure what box to try look hard at TST the proved to me that they are making the HP and TQ numbers.



Happy Holidays

Chris

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03 Dodge Q/C 2500 HO 4X4 6spd

thats good to hear... because the website says "UP TO XX HP AND XX TQ"...



UP TO? hmmm. . So i just want to know that the 150 and 500 is accurate, thanks!

 

[SLinse]

Thanks Extreme diesel!! That is what I want to see!! SHOW ME DYNO #'S!!!! Those are respectable numbers, but I hope they get better.



Any word about Western Diesel stuff?? I just spent a couple days with a guy who has a DYNO and does a lot with all 3 Diesels. He has tested many products, and stands by Western Diesel. Here is the interesting part. He likes the D-max the best for this reason. On a 2001 D-max with 4 inch exahaust, AFE intake, and the Western-diesel box... 428 HP and 795 TQ!! Not to shabby!! I drove the truck, and WOW it runs good. He hasn't had anyone come in with a 3rd gen truck to test yet, but I'm interested to see #'s.



I watched him run a DYNO test on the FASS setup W-D just came out with. He installed it on a PowerStroke, and it did make a differance!! Sure made that noisey 7. 3 pretty quite. The truck needed to run about 40 miles to get the rest of the air out, but with 4 miles on it it had gained 15hp, and kept gtting better.

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

Originally posted by Extreme Diesel

The Quadzilla box with a few other mods made decent numbers 0-setting 318 HP @ 2880 RPM 587 Tq @ 2800 RPM as you that know that is not stock, 70-setting 355 HP @ 2800 RPM 764 Tq @ 2200 RPM and 140-setting 387 @ 2760 RPM & 848 Tq @ 2040 RPM.

Happy Holidays

Chris

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03 Dodge Q/C 2500 HO 4X4 6spd

I think there is something wrong with those numbers. They seem a little low to me. I have seen Fred Swansons ( HO ) With DDII's and DD/EZ post 396 HP. That was on the fourth level( + 60 HP). If these timing boxes make less whats the use?

 

[Chris Wilkerson]

Anytime guys, more than happy to give up my info. As these numbers being wrong I don't understand. A stock HO puts out around 250 hp and 500 tq. The Quadzilla box adds 140 hp and I made 387. 9 add 250+140=390 so I'm 2. 1 hp away. We shut the truck down on that run at 2,700 RPM because the EGT was @ 1,450 and climbing. Another way to look at it is 250 hp + 60 hp EZ and DDII's lets say add 80 hp that should give you 390 hp. These dyno #'s from TST was on a mustang dyno. When I run the same setup on a dyno-jet I came up with 397 hp and 756 tq on the 140 setting and 356 hp and 658 tq on the 70 hp setting. The tq #'s between the two dyno's are not even close. We mad another run on the mustang at a 15sec test and went to 3,200 RPM and made less hp and tq that the 30sec test at 2,700 RPM. Unless you run the same two trucks on the same dyno, set up the same you can't really compare dyno #'s and trucks.



Happy Holidays

Chris

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03 2500 Q/C 4X4 HO 6spd

 

[XcumminsX]

forget dyno runs... . can the truck full wot in a 1/4 run????

 

[Mopar_Mudder]

Foget 1/4 miles, trucks are for pullin may, I got cars to go fast

 

[Tomeygun]

Originally posted by Greg Boardman

I think there is something wrong with those numbers. They seem a little low to me. I have seen Fred Swansons ( HO ) With DDII's and DD/EZ post 396 HP. That was on the fourth level( + 60 HP). If these timing boxes make less whats the use?

extreme diesel:



I wondered the same thing...

318 (stock kinda) + 70 box = 388

318 + 140 setting = 458 ?? (you got 387)



so the box did not help as much as it should ?!?



what mods did you say you had? (318hp without the box)

because you mentioned 250 (stock ho) + 140 (box) = 390

but what about the "non-stock" parts you have?



are these boxes dyno'ing accurate ???

 

[Chris Wilkerson]

tomeygun



Go back and look at my post. The Quadzilla box is 0-70-140, the 0 setting does not put the truck back to stock. The HO should put out around 250 hp 500 tq stock, with the Quad box on the 0 setting it made 318 hp 587 tq. To put it in simple words the box does not return to stock on the 0 setting. We had to unplug the box from the truck to get it to read stock #'s. The dyno run on 0 setting was looking good until 2600 RPM (240 hp 505 tq) then the hp & tq jumped straight up to 318 hp 587 tq in less than 300 rpm. I hope this gives you what your looking for.



Happy Holidays

Chris

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[Tomeygun]

Originally posted by Extreme Diesel

tomeygun



Go back and look at my post. The Quadzilla box is 0-70-140, the 0 setting does not put the truck back to stock. The HO should put out around 250 hp 500 tq stock, with the Quad box on the 0 setting it made 318 hp 587 tq. To put it in simple words the box does not return to stock on the 0 setting. We had to unplug the box from the truck to get it to read stock #'s. The dyno run on 0 setting was looking good until 2600 RPM (240 hp 505 tq) then the hp & tq jumped straight up to 318 hp 587 tq in less than 300 rpm. I hope this gives you what your looking for.



Happy Holidays

Chris

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I think I understand, I though you meant that you had OTHER mods than the box... ( "as you that know that is not stock") , I took that as you had a little something that made it not stock, ie, water/meth injection,etc)



What you meant is the the 0 setting is like a like a 68HP gain:



setting 0 - 68 hp (318-250)

setting 70 - 105hp (355-250)

setting 140 - 137hp (387-250)



i guess i read too far into the setting/name



other than the box was there any other BOMBS on the test truck?

 

[Chris Wilkerson]

tomeygun



The rest of the bombs include AFE Intake, Straight Pipe at the time of the test to see how close the #'s were. And to you getting the new TST box, if you have a HO saying your clutch will hold you will make more hp & tq than if you had the Quadzilla box. I took a ride in (TST)Marks truck, you will be happy.



Happy Holidays

Chris

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[XcumminsX]

read my post again. I asked if it can ran a 1/4 miles WOT... . Meaning will the egts be ok?