Let there be light!

[MABurns]

And it was good!!!





Hella 4000 Eurobeam Driving lights. Why did I wait so long?



[/IMG]#ad

 

[MABurns]

[/IMG]#ad

 

[Mundgyver]

Nice lights, are they street legal as if that is going to make a difference.



Got any pictures from inside the cab at night to show the difference



They look good

 

[Alphacowboy]

got the same lights, absolutely love them! I have them in my custom bumper though. I have them hooked up so they come on with my brights. Probably no legal, but who sees them when I have them on... not many people as its only when I have my brights on and I am one that drops the brights pretty far away from an on comming vehicle as I hate havin the brights in my face too.



#ad

 

[Matt400]

MABurns- Looks good. I like the location, not blocking air flow.

Nice lights, are they street legal as if that is going to make a difference.

I guess thats different from State to State. An interesting find in CA is that you can run any pair/any wattage of off road lights you want as long as they only supplement the high beams, don't need to be DOT certified.

 

[Mundgyver]

Interesting about CA laws



Alphacowboy, who built your bumper, that is first rate looking

 

[scotty1]

Its a huge difference on the lonely roads late at night with a good set of lights huh?



Heres a link to a similar set up on my truck.



http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/pics/showphoto.php?photo=14261&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1



I am running the blue lens' now for winter... they cut through the heavy snowfalls REAL NICE.



Scotty

 

[JMalliet]

Interesting about CA laws



Alphacowboy, who built your bumper, that is first rate looking

My younger brother built it in high school, he did a very good job.

 

[MABurns]

Nice lights, are they street legal as if that is going to make a difference.



Got any pictures from inside the cab at night to show the difference



They look good

I think the key to being "legal" is to keep them covered with the rock guards during the day when you are driving around.



At night if there isn't much traffic, use them only when your using the high beams. I wired mine so that when turned on at the switch, they only work when the high beams are on.



If the on coming traffic happens to be a law enforcement type and I turn them off prior to melting his windshield he will be thankful and leave me alone.

 

[DBabcock]

Who built your light bar? Does it mount on the tow hooks? I am looking for a bar like yours that has the lights below the headlights.

Thanks, Dbabcock

 

[MABurns]

It is a Desert Racing Concept (DRC) lightbar. It mounts in place of the tow hooks. So you loose them, but I have been told that light bar is stronger than the hooks... ... we will see.

 

[Bob4x4]

MABurns- Looks good. I like the location, not blocking air flow.



I guess thats different from State to State. An interesting find in CA is that you can run any pair/any wattage of off road lights you want as long as they only supplement the high beams, don't need to be DOT certified.

That has not been my experience here in Ca. The book I used and quoted in court to have a lighting violation dropped, listed the legal lights (at the time of publication)all were 55 watts or less. No lighting with more output than what the factory uses is a safe bet.



I have 3 Hella rally 4000's on my light bar,2 euros and one pencil beam. I love em,would rather have the HIDS but none of them are legal on the street in Ca and must remain covered.



Bob

 

[Matt400]

That has not been my experience here in Ca.

I have 3 Hella rally 4000's on my light bar,2 euros and one pencil beam. I love em,would rather have the HIDS but none of them are legal on the street in Ca and must remain covered.

It all hinges on they way they are wired and the mounting height.



If they are wired so they only operate with the OEM high beam and are 16" to 42" tall then they are considered aux lamps by the California Vehicle code and not off road lamps. Aux lamps can have any wattage as long as they are not the vehicles primary lamp.



Its true off road lamps must be covered but thats for lamps out of the 16"-42" mounting or have separate switches not tied into the high beams. Actually I was pretty surprised myself to learn this. If you ever have to prove it in court you can find a similar California Court ruling here. Worth printing out for those running an aux pair of lamps.

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

Here is one more,

Sol Tek HID lights on the Banks Sidewinder Project we did!!



Greg DRC

 

[Boondocker]

Nice pic (#1). I hope your extension cord is long enough

 

[Thomas]

That has not been my experience here in Ca. The book I used and quoted in court to have a lighting violation dropped...

The only book that matters is the California Vehicle Code. Use the following link to see the sections that apply to front lighting: http://www.dmv. ca.gov/pubs/vctop/vc/tocd12c2a2.htm

It all hinges on they way they are wired and the mounting height...

There is no way Bob4x4 can make his "3 Hella rally 4000's" legal on the highway in California. The same section of the CVC that you are using to make them legal within a certain height range also includes the following: "Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps... ".

 

[Greg Boardman-RIP]

So..... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

What would they say about this????

 

[Matt400]

There is no way Bob4x4 can make his "3 Hella rally 4000's" legal on the highway in California.

Sure can, just make sure only 2 are uncovered, wired into the high beams and within the 16"-42" limit for aux lights, the rest need to be covered.

 

[Thomas]

"If they are wired so they only operate with the OEM high beam and are 16" to 42" tall then they are considered aux lamps by the California Vehicle code and not off road lamps... "

My mistake - I interpreted your word "they" as referring back to the "3 Hella rally 4000's " in the quote that you included in your post.

 

[Matt400]

Gotcha, I meant they as in a pair of aux lamps.



Dang that set up looks sweet Greg. What diameter are those lamps?