Competition lets hear your opinions of the B1 for everyday use

[Mopar-muscle]

this may not be the right place ??? sorry , but i'm thinking i need a different turbo , something that spools faster than a bone stock HX40 and after talking to someone that has driven most of them the B1 seems to be the choice ????



so before i spend more money on the wrong product , hows this thing just driving around , wit hdd3's , maybe supermentals and the comp on level one ? also back road towing ??? to much trouble to switch back and forth .



also whos blown one up , i hate carrying a spare turbo and downpipe with me :-laf

 

[CUMINNTSTRKN]

john



most guys seem to love the b-1. the only problem i saw with my b-1 was the cruising egt's. just driving down the road at 80mph i was running 1000 pre turbo. now at the time i did have bd5's in. it was hard for me to tow heavy under 2500rpm. it's a big turbo so at low rpm we don't have enough motor displacment to drive the turbo down low.



now in it's defense i pushed it to over 60psi a lot and event barked it at that boost level. it never let me down. when i sent it back to kurt he told me the exhaust housing had some cracks in it. imho it does not spool faster than a stock hx-40-16cm. it's about the same but not faster.



now since i have had mine kurt has come out with one that has a smaller housing on it to help with spool up.



jim

 

[Rob Thomas]

I've only had mine in a week, so take this FWIW. I have towed with it , and have had no complaints. I have DDIII's and a PM Comp and EZ, I tow with the Comp "off", and it seems just fine. Also I have yet to bury the EGT gauge, I hit 1400* and it just won't go past there, even on level 9 on the Comp.



Crusing at 80 mph, I have 700* and 2#'s boost. The turbo took some gettin' used to, about 1 day. Once it hit's 10 psi, it rockets up to 45#'s like nothin'. My smoke level is down from the HX-35, as is cool down time. I am very happy with it, and have no complaints so far. I can definatly feel the differance from the stock turbo, but I will see what kind of "real" power gains I got from it this weekend, as I'm goin' to Quaker City, drag racin', then I can compare the two, I'm sure I'll be impressed. I love this turbo!



As far as I know, nobody has blown one up either.



Later, Rob

 

[StakeMan]

Rob,

Your always looking for a little more HP. Think that B1 was worth 12 HP? hehehe

 

[Rob Thomas]

Originally posted by StakeMan

Rob,

Your always looking for a little more HP. Think that B1 was worth 12 HP? hehehe

I don't recommend this turbo for you Stake, it will put you WAY over your HP limit, and maybee over you trans's limit also.



Later, Rob





P. S. Mopar Muscle, mine is the BIG housing, not the 12cm, and Stake, the BIG housing is for BIG trucks, not pretty little red ones.

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

I've been really happy with my B1. It's a screamer and bulletproof.



I have the 12cm housing. Rob has the 16cm.



Too bad he doesn't have the fuel to use it

 

[Rob Thomas]

Originally posted by Mark_Kendrick





Too bad he doesn't have the fuel to use it

In due time Mark, in due time... ... ... ... ...



BTW, hows that headgasket, fuel boy?



Later, Rob

 

[StakeMan]

Rob,



No need for a B1 here. I'm not transmission handicapped like you. LOL

 

[Mark_Kendrick]

Originally posted by Rob Thomas





In due time Mark, in due time... ... ... ... ...



BTW, hows that headgasket, fuel boy?



Later, Rob

NEW!! just like yours!!!

 

[nfox]

hx40 turbo

Mopar-muscle why don't you have piers modify your hx40 turbo for you, there is a night and day difference when Piers works his magic on the Hx40 turbo.

 

[HVAC]

B1 Turbo

John, the B1 won't blow up. It's much stronger in the bearing and shaft area.



The B1 is a much better performance turbo then the 35 or 40 because it is larger and provides more air volume. It spools kinda like the 40 does. However, it will provide you with more boost then the 40 and safely run in the 50's all day without fail. It is the best performance turbo available currently.



If your priority is spool up then you may want to call Piers. I haven't had first hand experience with his modified turbos but they sound like they spool quite well.



John, have you considered a higher stall converter???

 

[KatDiesel]

When I had the B1 and the regular housing, I didn't think it was bad at all for everyday driving. The only time I really noticed it was slower was when I tried launching at only 8 to 10lbs... and my 60ft was slower then when I had the HX40 w 12cm² housing on it... . once I spooled the turbo a bit higher at launch, I ran the same times as I did with the HX40.



Normal driving was fine with DDIII's.



Waiting for my KwikSpool B1 to show up (smaller housing).

 

[J.R. Adkins]

I rode in a automatic B-1 equipped truck with the 12cm housing and it does have some lag at the bottom end. On the other hand the turbo spools nicely @ 10 all the way to 50+ psi! My PDR HX40 spools faster than my HX35/16 and in my opinion spools faster than the B-1 with the 12cm.







J. R.

 

[msmtd]

HVAC-"It is the best performance turbo available currently" That is a sales pitch. What are you comparing it to? And how can you say it won't blow up? I wonder how many people have actually seen a charger other than a 35,40,or a B1?

 

[KatDiesel]

Originally posted by msmtd

HVAC-"It is the best performance turbo available currently" That is a sales pitch. What are you comparing it to? And how can you say it won't blow up? I wonder how many people have actually seen a charger other than a 35,40,or a B1?

To date... ..... there have been no B1 failures..... will it happen? Maybe one day but based on the information at hand no failures.



Personally I have seen 8 different turbos and each has been on my truck. How many different ones have you seen or had on your truck?



For single turbo performance... the B1 does an excellant job. And no I do not have one on my truck at the moment.

 

[HVAC]

Quote:

"HVAC-"It is the best performance turbo available currently" That is a sales pitch. "



No, it's my opinion based on my personal experience with larger Holsets predominately. The midrange and larger Holsets (HX40, H2, HX55, HT3B, HT60, HX60, etc. ) are slugs from experience on my truck as well as others. Try driving around town with a HX55, much to much lag. The B1 provides terrific drivability for a turbo as large as it is with as much cfm as it can deliver.



What are you comparing it to when you disrespect my statment? Do you have something to share?



When I compare longetivity I am specifically targeting the HX40. I lost a HX40 on Saturday. The track record for the 40 speaks for itself.



QUOTE:

"I wonder how many people have actually seen a charger other than a 35,40,or a B1?"



Hell, I have no friggin' Idea! Probably not many.

 

[Roger rodbolt]

Mopar-muscle,

My B1 replaced a HX40-16cm stock turbo. The '40 worked well, wastegated to 40lbs except when towing. Towing egt's were high because the HX40 didn't run much boost at cruise or spool fast enough on hills. I'm very happy with the B1, it spools the about the same as the HX40 at the lowest rpm, with the electronic enhancements turned off. It spools much (!) faster once a few lbs. of boost is made or with extra fuel. The B1 runs 10 or more lbs. additional boost compared to the '40 when accelerating even at part throttle. If there is a better, all round, single turbo for our slightly to highly bombed 5. 9's I would be willing to try it. I have HX35-12, -14,-16, HX40-12,-16, H2E, and HX50 turbos and I would wholeheartily agree with HVAC's statement regarding the B1. Larry Crawford

 

[Mopar-muscle]

gentleman to your neutral corners ... .



nfox , that thought has crossed my mind , but as HVAC says " the track record for the 40 speaks for itself " i have one in pieces in a box right here next to me ...



HVAC , looser convertor ??? i'm going that route next week , switching back to a 91R ( i finally have gathered all my parts and a spare trans to build one and have a working spare ... just in case ), may try a 89R , if there is such an amimal , though i have to admit i love this 93 , i'm going to miss it ...



i might send this slightly hurt ( thanks masjestic ) 40 to piers , then i could switch between it and the stocker )



kat you don't have your B1 yet ???



as far as the B1 and EGT's , that would be one of my main reasons to going to it , avoiding high EGT , whats the max you guys are seeing with everything set on broil with the 12cm housing ??? i have DD3's , but i see supermentals in my future ...



i have yet to really run mine on the road with full hp , except for the couple weeks i had the 40 on and till i was nice enough to let a couple guys take a joy ride with the 40 and the trans came back slipping

 

[SlyBones]

Originally posted by Mopar-muscle

nfox , that thought has crossed my mind , but as HVAC says " the track record for the 40 speaks for itself " i have one in pieces in a box right here next to me ...

Thats not a fair statement, as there are no failures to date for Piers modified HX40. Piers record speaks for itself. Piers specifically addresses the oiling of the turbo shaft, and has his turbos zero balanced. http://www.piersdiesel.com/Hx40.htm



I am not suggesting anything bad about the B1. Only sticking up for PDR HX40. From what I have seem on TDR here, both turbos perform nicely and have quite a loyal band of followers. There are not that many here that have tried both.

 

[danandamy]

I believe he was referring to the stock hx40's which do have a rep for grenading.



dan