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Stant has been a familiar brand to me as far back as back as I can remember in the 60’s.

I recently purchased a Stant thermostat (part number 14948) for a 2004 Chevy Avalanche

from Advanced Auto for $25. 07 which was rather expensive at my discounted price.

Imagine my surprise when I removed it from the box and saw Made in China!!

I’m sure you will respond that it is of the highest quality available, but I feel I have been GOUGED!

I am aware that Stant is emerging from bankruptcy and the stock holders are looking out for their own financial interests but what about the future of American manufacturing?

China has their place building kit furniture and tableware, not as a main stream supplier of American automobile parts.

We are having fewer and fewer choices when it comes to American products and it upsets me!

I have and will continue to go out of my way to purchase and support American made products.





Tim Bartlett

Born in America!

Grown in America!

With my Heart in America!
 
Hmmm... You may wonder why we have such high unemployment and can't seem to easily shake the recession as we have in the past. There are only so many hamburgers to flip, coffees to serve, and limited useful information to process - AND we get to compete for those jobs with the hordes of imported "not made in the USA" workers. What jobs are left that require specialty skills and pay a living wage. Not so long ago automation was the evil job buster. Now it's the greedy corporations and idiotic enviro-nutsies chasing the American dream away. Our schools are dumbing down most students when the rest of the world is producing very intelligent offspring.
 
Hmmm... You may wonder why we have such high unemployment and can't seem to easily shake the recession as we have in the past. There are only so many hamburgers to flip, coffees to serve, and limited useful information to process - AND we get to compete for those jobs with the hordes of imported "not made in the USA" workers. What jobs are left that require specialty skills and pay a living wage. Not so long ago automation was the evil job buster. Now it's the greedy corporations and idiotic enviro-nutsies chasing the American dream away. Our schools are dumbing down most students when the rest of the world is producing very intelligent offspring.



Way off topic, but I had to respond and only in general (not specifically directed to you)



We as a society need to stop blaming the schools... they are only partially responsible... The burden of responsibility is and should be on the parents. Back when Abe Lincoln was president and I had to walk to school both ways uphill in the snow... I did well in school and did not screw up very often... Why? Because I knew my parents and specifically my father would beat the living snot out of me for being a distraction and disrepectful. A phone call to either of my parents spelled instant doom for me. In the 3rd grade, I got into a fight and went to the principals office. He had two questions after he lectured us. A call home or a few whacks from the drilled paddle. I chose the paddle. If he called home, my punishment would have been extremely more severe...



As an example of schools taking initiative to help the parents raise smart, respectful people:



My neighborhood highschool just got a new principal and I am so proud of him. He has banned all cell phones, IPODs, anything electronic during school hours. You use it, you lose it and your parents have to come reclaim it. These items are neat techno items but are distractions to young people in class...
 
Not off topic at all. You will get 110% support on parental responsibility from me. My issue is when the school passes the child to the next grade so as to not hurt their little psyche. When they get to final graduation they cannot carry on a sensible conversation or figure basic math or have respect for others. I admire those educators that buck the status quo and PC emotions to buckle down to the job at hand. Watch the movie "Idiocracy" and do some comparisions/contrasts. I don't think it will take 500 years to reach the state of dumbness portrayed in the movie. We are almost there now.
 
Stant has been a familiar brand to me as far back as back as I can remember in the 60’s.

I recently purchased a Stant thermostat (part number 14948) for a 2004 Chevy Avalanche

from Advanced Auto for $25. 07 which was rather expensive at my discounted price.

Imagine my surprise when I removed it from the box and saw Made in China!!

I’m sure you will respond that it is of the highest quality available, but I feel I have been GOUGED!

I am aware that Stant is emerging from bankruptcy and the stock holders are looking out for their own financial interests but what about the future of American manufacturing?

China has their place building kit furniture and tableware, not as a main stream supplier of American automobile parts.

We are having fewer and fewer choices when it comes to American products and it upsets me!

I have and will continue to go out of my way to purchase and support American made products.





Tim Bartlett

Born in America!

Grown in America!

With my Heart in America!





AND



Marlon Bailey, CEO of Stant is laughing all the way to his bank,,,

$25. 00 parts do not cost anywhere near that amount to mass produce in China, Mexico or Ckech Republic.

You and everyone else will most likely be charged that much to support the President/CEO, COO, CFO lifestyles.

(my opinion only)
 
Anywhere I shop I do look on the box. If I have the choice I pick the USA product even if it costs a little more. Sometimes the USA product can be cheaper. I just wish everyone would take the time to look like Tim and just make this choice. My . 02 cent
 
buy "made in america", gives american's jobs.

buy "imported", gives our jobs to other countries.

simple math.

cheaper isn't cheaper when the dollar is only worth 30% of what it was in the 80's.
 
So Im wondering what things everyone is off buying that are made in America? What code do I need to crack to find this stuff? If it's part of a car/truck theres a betting chance it aint made here. Electronics? Nope. Computers? Certainly not. Foreign cars are made here but theyre assembled from parts shipped form overseas. So Im really curious as to what things everyone on here's buying that are "made in America" and why you think its important that it is. Yeah I get the "American dollars at home" argument but in most cases we were such a bit player when the produciton shifted that we werent keeping that many dollars here or that many workers in jobs anyway. You know what I know is made here? Defense industry products. Other than that I have a hard time finding consumer products that arent made abroad. Even Cummins has plants that do filtration compnents and casting in China and India.
 
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So Im wondering what things everyone is off buying that are made in America? What code do I need to crack to find this stuff? If it's part of a car/truck theres a betting chance it aint made here. Electronics? Nope. Computers? Certainly not. Foreign cars are made here but theyre assembled from parts shipped form overseas. So Im really curious as to what things everyone on here's buying that are "made in America" and why you think its important that it is. Yeah I get the "American dollars at home" argument but in most cases we were such a bit player when the produciton shifted that we werent keeping that many dollars here or that many workers in jobs anyway. You know what I know is made here? Defense industry products. Other than that I have a hard time finding consumer products that arent made abroad. Even Cummins has plants that do filtration compnents and casting in China and India.



Its called trying to buy American when you can I always ask if they have a different brand that is American made. Often the answer is yes but it costs more. I pay the few morte dollars and get the American part . Granted that this is getting harder and harder because many people don't care or have given up. the companies don't care either i have written them as they moved productuion to countries and they don't even take the time to reply
 
I'm still off topic here, but relative to L Rutigliano's discussion, every parent expects their child(ren) to be "above average". Unfortunately, we can't all be above average, hence the dumbing down of the educational system.
 
as more people cheeped out, more products were/are made overseas.
then corporate taxes have been increased, encouraging companies to move.
only a few laws have been passed, which encouraged overseas companies to assemble some products here.
the harley/honda issue and the big four (at that time) vs the Japanese imports.
honda built a plant here, toyota, etc. shipped their trucks without beds until they got a plant built. (the dealers used to install the beds at first).
but when the cost of business is cheaper somewhere else, most companies will move. the same with making/sourcing their products.
if the products retailed the same or more if made off shore, then they would make them here. providing jobs at home.
(we must remember all of our environmental laws, add cost to the products as well).
the united states has the third highest rate of corporate taxes in the world.
japan is first in the world in corporate taxes. this high tax rate is a real incentive to base a company in the u. s. a.
i'm surprised at how many companies are trying to stick it out, instead of moving.
so if i can keep an american working, yes i'll look for the made in america stamp/sticker.
i've been for a fair trade tax advocate for over thirty years.
you charge us extra, we charge you. you pay your workers 0. 10/hour, we tax you the difference in our wages on the same product.
it would solve part of the federal government's insolvency.
 
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The only reason the US is ever going to bring industry back is WAR. We have to have our supply cut (first strike strategy btw) and if we can no longer make for ourselves because we stopped being a manufacturing nation, we're screwed!

You have to know the trade laws are WAY out of whack when you can take raw materials from here, ship them 1/2 way around the world, make a finished product and ship it back here through customs, and sell it cheaper than you could make it here! And who pushed these laws through? big money companies who didnt want to spend any money on clean tech or workers comp or taxes. Now the few who remain have to bear the burden of the rest who left and pay even more to keep the pot full. And they obviously cant do it. I find it really sad that I cant even find an AMERICAN FLAG that is made here!:{

I dont feel it really costs more to be "made in America" we have just become so consuming of disposable junk we cant justify quality anymore. Who wants to pay $1000 for a computer (made in USA) that will be outdated in 1yr. ? Cars are DESIGNED to be junk in 5 yrs! When you were a kid, how many NEW phones did your folks buy? 1-2 maybe. Now everybody buys a new one (for each member of the family) every 2 yrs, IF they last that long! and we are told be these same companies "its normal" to do this. :rolleyes:
 
Kenny, While some of the products in your links are put together in America by Americans, the components are made overseas. I know this a sore spot for some folks here and Im not picking at your beliefs, Im just saying from a world labor market standpoint we cant compete. Its basic economics. As for your links, Im a bit of an audiophile and know exactly what goes into stereo equipment. The best drivers for speakers are made in denmark and france (focal, scanspeak) the best mother boards are made in Japan, the best chipsets (Burr-Brown) are made in china for the parent company texas instruments. The best CD transports (philips) are made in china for the danish company. The amount of tax breaks and capital investmert required to be competitive in these products isnt worth it if the labor cost prices you out of the market for those products.
 
Eastman Kodak, Made Rochester, N. Y. into a city.

When I worked for them there were 63000 people

in Roch, working for them. Now 8000 people.
 
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