Load range F Carlisle tires

[NIsaacs]

Time to replace my 3.5 year old "Will Pops" with another set, lol. In all fairness the OEM's have done well, 235/80R16 E rated, no flats in 3.5 years of 6 ton loads on my dump trailer. However, yesterday I had two start to separate so I ordered a set of F rated Carlisle's, 235/85R16, good for 3960 lbs. Local tire shop wanted $840 out the door, ordered these for $570 delivered, so I figured I could mount them myself for $270.

Nick

 

[Wayne M.]

I think you did the right thing.

 

[NIsaacs]

Well, since I upgraded my tires for more capacity, I can't let that go to waste, so I added more capacity to my trailer :-laf

Nick

 

[JR]

I just looked those up, it looks like they carry the "L" speed rating (75mph). I came across an interesting article on ST tires the other day. It's a good read. It mentions Carlisle as being one of the manufacturers stepping up the quality of their tires. The Sailun S637 is what I went with last year, it's been a great tire so far. They run alot cooler than the last set I had.

http://www.moderntiredealer.com/art...meeting-the-demand-for-more-carrying-capacity

 

[NIsaacs]

JR, thanks for the link, it was a good read. Looks like Carlisle, Maxxis, Kenda and Sailun are pro active. I see Load Trail trailers are using Gladiator 14 ply tires as standard on their heavy duty trailers. My brother and nephew, both, sell those tires and customers are having good luck with them, they are kinda spendy tho. I think the Sailun S637 is all steel? Should be a good tire.

I checked my wheels on my dump trailer and they are rated 3750 lbs, no psi rating, but I don't think I will have an issue with the 3960 @ 95 psi of these. Wheel failure is rare these days. Years ago I did have some white spoke 16.5's crack in the spokes so I bought a set of mods, they have been fine.

Nick

 

[SnoKing]

Next time look for Sailun S637, they are a steel ply carcass tire similar to the GY G614.

http://simpletire.com/sailun-st235-85r16-5540992-tires?gclid=CLrkgYmOjswCFRRgfgod9Y8NdQ

SNOKING

 

[NIsaacs]

Next time look for Sailun S637, they are a steel ply carcass tire similar to the GY G614.

http://simpletire.com/sailun-st235-85r16-5540992-tires?gclid=CLrkgYmOjswCFRRgfgod9Y8NdQ

SNOKING

Did you read this thread?:-laf

But yes, I think they are a good tire, however I was leery of the 110 psi of the 14 ply tires. The wheels will have to step up next.

Nick

 

[SnoKing]

Did you read this thread?:-laf

But yes, I think they are a good tire, however I was leery of the 110 psi of the 14 ply tires. The wheels will have to step up next.

Nick

Yes, and I know that the weight ratings on most ST are very inflated! The Sailun was marketed as a G614 replacement as a LT235/85R16G, and was 1" larger in dia than the G614. Saulin re-engineered it to a similar smaller dia and relabeled it as a ST. It is still a tire that meets international high quality manufacturing standards!

If you want to tire to carry more weight, then you need more inflation and rims that can handle it. No free lunch.

And yes, I did NOT read it carefully enough, as I choked on the Carlisle word.

Carlisle was one of the first to throw out the speed restrictions that created the increased weight ratings of ST tires.

Using mirrors and magic to have tires carrying heavier loads at higher speed than long standing industry standards is what ST tires are all about. ST tires are tested to lower standards than LT tires, as they were intended to local service and have found there way to the under side of heavy tall trailers seeing America! Forums are full of ST tire failures on RV, Boat, Horse and commercial sites.

Friends don't tell friends to buy ST tires!

SNOKING

 

[JR]

Friends don't tell friends to buy ST tires!SNOKING

And yet you are recommending an ST tire to the masses.

I generally agree with your statement but there are a few exceptions. They're not all built equally.

 

[SnoKing]

And yet you are recommending an ST tire to the masses.

I generally agree with your statement but there are a few exceptions. They're not all built equally.

The Sailun is the only exception I would make at this point, as it has a steel ply carcass! Westlake now has a steel carcass LRG ST235/80 or 85R16G, however it has no track record.

SNOKING

 

[JR]

Greenball also has a steel radial out. While they aren't well known in this particular segment they do build some of the best off road tires on the market so I have no doubts they at least have the ability to make a reliable tire. The tread looks very similar to the Sailun.

http://www.moderntiredealer.com/new...-introduces-heavy-duty-specialty-trailer-tire

 

[SnoKing]

Greenball also has a steel radial out. While they aren't well known in this particular segment they do build some of the best off road tires on the market so I have no doubts they at least have the ability to make a reliable tire. The tread looks very similar to the Sailun.

http://www.moderntiredealer.com/new...-introduces-heavy-duty-specialty-trailer-tire

LRF/ 12 ply however. SNOKING

 

[JR]

They are rated for 3850 lbs @ 90psi, which would cover 7k lb axles.

 

[Grizzly]

I believe you'd be far better off with a good LT truck tire, such as Michelin XPS RIB. Carlisle ST have always been known to be the worst of the worst ST tire. ST tires are not regulated by the DOT so they will make watever junk they want.

 

[NIsaacs]

Did you read this thread?:-laf

But yes, I think they are a good tire, however I was leery of the 110 psi of the 14 ply tires. The wheels will have to step up next.

Nick

I only said this because you said to check the Sailun tires, there were 2 posts about that tire already, that's all.

And yes, to all the nays about ST tires, that's why I didn't ask for advise, just did it .

Nick

 

[NIsaacs]

Here is a pic of my tire machine...high dollar tarp stick (2 broken shovel handles with a screw in the end)...and tarp roller.

Nick

 

[JR]

The best decision one can make is an informed one

:-laf

 

[DaveHess]

I have run Maxxis ST tires under my Jayco 298BHS TT now for 10 years without fail. I did replace the Load Range D's with E's. The D's were very close to the max GWR whereas the E's give me some wiggle room. The trailer goes over the scale at 9430 all dressed up and ready to camp. I don't tow at high speeds either. 65 to 70 to keep the RPM's between 1900 and 2000. I have gotten my doors blown off by pick-ups pulling RV's. Even once by a half ton Ford with an Eco-Boost pulling a small fiver and boat behind that. To each his own. That's all. Just my two cents.

 

[Mingoglia]

I can say the new E Rated Carlisle's with the N speed rating have been great. I was a victim of the terrible Carlisle's of years ago, but their new stuff is great. I travel back and forth between GA and AZ every few months and I set the cruise on 85 and point it down the road. First set of ST tires I've had that I may actually completely wear out before blowing them up.

Mike

 

[DavidDriscoll]

I was told ALL NEW RV's come with "E" rated tires, which are only good with the RV EMPTY! After blowing 2 right after I bought my 5th wheel toy hauler, and causing $17,000 damage to my truck & Trailer, I replaced all 5 with "G" rated. Much better tire