Lock out hubs

[AH64ID]

Pushing on a pull door. I don't question why they went to the design. But your treading a fine line pushing grease into something not meant to take more than assembled with. If you want to maintain them get a locking hub set, that's a key selling point all the mfgs use.

It’s not a fine line, it’s a proven maintenance procedure… plain and simple.

I had manual hubs with serviceable bearings and have no intentions of spending my money on that setup again. It wasn’t worth the cost or increased maintenance.

 

[Darkbloodmon]

Would you recommend refilling sealed gas shocks with more nitrogen? Borris is smiling down at these no parts required fixes and service intervals.

 

[AH64ID]

Would you recommend refilling sealed gas shocks with more nitrogen? Borris is smiling down at these no parts required fixes and service intervals.

Apples to oranges…

I was skeptical at first, but it’s been proven to be very effective.

 

[Ozymandias]

Oh, just forgot about that.

As soon as you have factory Aluminum wheels on a Gen4 - they don't fit over the Freespin Hubs. Only the basic steel rims fit.

So that leaves these kits more or less for the Tradesman trim level.

 

[Darkbloodmon]

Oh, just forgot about that.

As soon as you have factory Aluminum wheels on a Gen4 - they don't fit over the Freespin Hubs. Only the basic steel rims fit.

So that leaves these kits more or less for the Tradesman trim level.

3rd gen Aluminum wheels will still clear. I'm using a factory 5 spoke set currently. Verify the hub bore required for the hubs before purchasing. Spyntec said only the factory 17" steelies would fit in the assembly manual but it may have been outdated at the time it was printed. There should be a measurement in the assembly manual for quick reference.

 

[verk]

The Spyntec kit was definitely less expensive when I installed in about 2013. I remember it well believing at the time that Dynatrac was the better setup, but that that cost difference was not justifiable. I installed this setup at 63k when one of the hubs failed. I measured >=1 mpg improvement, but more importantly appreciated the change in steering feel and 2wd low in combination with manual transmission making parking, hooking up trailers and moving around in tight spaces a pleasure. This thread is acting as a reminder for inspecting grease and bearings. I've copied the email from Solid Axle below:

You really shouldn't have to re-torque the spindle nuts, but as with any part on a vehicle, should be inspected regularly. The inspection schedule for the bearings should be after the first 12,000 miles and based on the condition of the grease and bearings, you can space out your intervals from there.

 

[EDankievitch]

I think the New Gen 4 wheels will clear the hubs offered by RAM man . Ford has the same style wheel hub design on their new 250 and 350 trucks.

 

[AH64ID]

I think the New Gen 4 wheels will clear the hubs offered by RAM man . Ford has the same style wheel hub design on their new 250 and 350 trucks.

Looks like they will.

They utilize the factory style unit bearings, and recommend greasing them every 24K miles.

 

[Ozymandias]

Ram Man? The company that does not deliver parts that are paid for and do not respond to customers emails and phone calls?

 

[Darkbloodmon]

Ram Man? The company that does not deliver parts that are paid for and do not respond to customers emails and phone calls?

I've heard about him aswell in this light.

 

[verk]

Oh, just forgot about that.

As soon as you have factory Aluminum wheels on a Gen4 - they don't fit over the Freespin Hubs. Only the basic steel rims fit.

So that leaves these kits more or less for the Tradesman trim level.

https://www.dynatrac.com/downloads/2014-2016-Dodge-Free-Spin-Kit-Fitment-Notification-V1.pdf lists the wheels that will work with freespin hubs on a 4th gen. One of these says 2010-2012 Factory RAM wheels which I'm guessing is steel ?

 

[Ozymandias]

I'd say so yes. All Alloy wheels that I know from Gen4 trucks have the enclosed center.

 

[AH64ID]

I'd say so yes. All Alloy wheels that I know from Gen4 trucks have the enclosed center.

I don’t think the enclosed center happened until 2013 when 18’s and 20’s were introduced. In 2010-2012 17’s and 3rd Gen style hub cap centers will still used.

 

[EDankievitch]

You can have the hubs of the new style wheels opened up. But it’s a pain to do.

 

[verk]

Since there was discussion on this thread about using 4+ gen wheels with lock out hubs ( freespin kits ) I've attached a graphic of current Mopar truck wheel offerings showing #1-3 with larger center bore wheels that should support such kits. I'm pretty sure #2 is unchromed wheel, #3 is chromed, no idea about #1. I'd be interested in offsets of wheels #1-3 if somebody knows or can determine with a look at the wheel stamping.

 

[Regcabguy]

Yes I did back then because they lack in grease right from the factory.
If you put to much in it it will ooze out through the seal.
Do that at every brake job afterwards and they will last as long as the vehicle.
These are not small bearings by any means, it's just the greases lifespan that limits the whole assembly to survive longer then 100K, some even do that.

I've got 230K on my Honda's wheel bearings. I don't know what Honda does but their parts last for the most part.
Had I known about greasing the hubs I'd probably still have them. I've seen the havoc that a seized bearing reeks when it seizes

 

[Darkbloodmon]

I don't know what Honda does

Behind Honda is Beck and Arnley, behind Beck and Arnley is Koyo.

It pays to know the relationship between brand, distributor, and actual manufacturer.

 

[bcbender]

FWIW... The free-spin kits are similar in my opinion to adding a GV over/ underdrive. You will never see any cost benefit or enough fuel savings to justify the cost, then there is the maintenance. I went 200k miles on my 04 and only change bearings once ($150) but it was due to dealer tech negligence in overtightening the axle nut that ruined my bearing and I change the other out of an abundance of caution.

JM2C, some like em, but definitely limits what you can do wheel wise for sure.

 

[Regcabguy]

Behind Honda is Beck and Arnley, behind Beck and Arnley is Koyo.

It pays to know the relationship between brand, distributor, and actual manufacturer.

They're doing something right.