I've never been much involved in target shooting except to sight in a gun,but a friend who is part of a local shooting club that has a range told me they have a range here where the targets are 2 miles away. Can't remember the calibers they are using(NATO something?),but he showed me a round though, it was about an inch in diameter and 6" long. Said the gun's tripods had to be bolted down to concrete before firing,use a telescope to check the targets. Sounded like a pretty cool thing to do,but expensive. Anyone else heard of this form of entertainment?
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Heard a story from a fellow Reservist (years ago) who had been a Marine in VietNam. . they had trouble with a VC or NVA forward observer who stayed out of reach, and would always direct a bit of (mostly ineffective, but annoying) mortar fire on them nearly every day (reminds me of M*A*S*H 4077's "five o'clock Charlie" character)... Eventuually, they spotted him in a tree about 2-3000meters away. Got with the armorer, and fitted a . 50cal with a scope. one round in chamber, lock the tripod, wait. .
pokes his head thru the branches to begin his nightly entertainment, and then the bullet ruined his binoculars
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They scouted out the area, and found a headless forward observer. . no more mortar fire for a while... "reach out and touch someone"
pokes his head thru the branches to begin his nightly entertainment, and then the bullet ruined his binoculars
#adThey scouted out the area, and found a headless forward observer. . no more mortar fire for a while... "reach out and touch someone"
That sounds like a Carlos Hathcock story. I highly recommend the book about him called Marine Sniper, it's a great read. That movie called Sniper is loosely based around his story such as when he shot another sniper through the enemy's scope.
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The largest organized group is the . 50 Caliber Shooters Association. Their website is www.fcsa.org. Some of the 50 cal are Barrett's, which are used by the military, Armalites, Macs,Harris, and various others. I've heard of 11" groups at almost a mile, but nothing as far as 2 miles. At gun shows rounds for 50 cal go for $1-$2 each. A 50 cal can cost as little as about $2500, and go upwards towards $10k with a good scope.
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Two miles is 4000 yards as bullets can only travel in nautical miles. A 50 BMG can be effective at that range on large targets, vehicles, buildings, etc. As far as being bolted down, there are tons of hand held 50's out there, you are probably not going to hit anything at 2500 yards without a machine rest let alone 4000. I have used the 50 machine guns pretty extensively in the service. Not my all time favorite, but they are awesome none the less.
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I've always wanted a Barrett 82A1.
Did anybody here ever hear of Tubb. (forgot his first name)
He has a video out on this subject. He's shooting a 6. 5-284 cal rifle that weighs around 20 lbs at targets 1800 yards away.
Once he gets it on target, he does pretty good.
He's getting a good solid 90 at this range.
My little brother will be good for 96-99(and a good X count) at the 600 yd line (classified High Master) I'd have a tough time holding 90 at 300 yds. I cant fathom one mile!!
Did anybody here ever hear of Tubb. (forgot his first name)
He has a video out on this subject. He's shooting a 6. 5-284 cal rifle that weighs around 20 lbs at targets 1800 yards away.
Once he gets it on target, he does pretty good.
He's getting a good solid 90 at this range.
My little brother will be good for 96-99(and a good X count) at the 600 yd line (classified High Master) I'd have a tough time holding 90 at 300 yds. I cant fathom one mile!!
I have a 50 Cal. live cartridge my friend gave me. I have seen the rifle but never shot it. Looks like to me a bolt action deer rifle, it does have a heck of a muzzle brake on it. You should see the picture of the whitetail he shot with it. I tell friends in Oklahoma it is a Texas squirrel gun.
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We shot 50's out our helicopters in the Marine Corps. Used for destoying equipment only. Meaning that according to NATO law you can not use it to shoot people... however, if the person you want to kill is wearing 782 gear ("H" harness, backpack, amo belt, canteen etc) then you can shhot at that equipment. If there happens to be a person standing behind that equipment, too bad/sorry about your luck.
We were schooled in the fine art of knowing our weapons ranges. When it came time to learn the 50's range, we were told "if you can see it, you can destroy it". How very true.
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We were schooled in the fine art of knowing our weapons ranges. When it came time to learn the 50's range, we were told "if you can see it, you can destroy it". How very true.
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A friend in Arizona has a kit 50 cal which he built, and loves. He says the accuracy is amazing, but too expensive to shoot often. Sorry I cannot recall the kit builder, but log on to the 50 cal site and you may find one. I believe they also advertise in Shooting Times.
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ol Ron, if the company is Az. based, it's probibally a Maadi-Griffin. These guys were busted by the ATF a while back. I still see advertisements in trade papers, so maybe it was just harassment. (Hope so) Their shipping records were never returned to them. 
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Their ad says you can build it for under $450. 00 barrell price included. I'm skeptical.
The guy's name I forgot earlier was G. David Tubb. He's out of Canadian Tx.
#adTheir ad says you can build it for under $450. 00 barrell price included. I'm skeptical.
The guy's name I forgot earlier was G. David Tubb. He's out of Canadian Tx.
Saw a sweet Barrett . 50 cal at last weekend's gun show. A mere $9k and she's all yours. Yee Haw. Anybody for groundhogs at a mile?
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Chad,I know it not your fault,but what's the deal with having rules about what kind of gun you can shoot someone with. Does the 50 cal. make too much of a mess or something?
Sorry guys,talked to my friend today the targets are at 2000 meters,not two miles,still a long way. That's what happens when someone tells me more than two numbers at time,they all become one.
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Sorry guys,talked to my friend today the targets are at 2000 meters,not two miles,still a long way. That's what happens when someone tells me more than two numbers at time,they all become one.
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Yeah, 750 grain bullet, (1 oz. = 437. 5 grains) @ 2700 F. P. S. AWESOME... I would like to see a hollow point... I don't know if they are made. . instant hamburger.
If the chance to read on Maxim comes up (machine gun fame) do so, he was initialy an electrician in the U. K. , at a seminar of his peers he was told "the only way to make big money is to invent a machine to make mass killing possible" !#ad
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If the chance to read on Maxim comes up (machine gun fame) do so, he was initialy an electrician in the U. K. , at a seminar of his peers he was told "the only way to make big money is to invent a machine to make mass killing possible" !
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thanks i thought it was not just me. 1 mile i have heard of... ... .
lucky to kill vermin at 600 yd, longest shot on momma ground squirrel, used laser rangefinder it was 590 to be exact, I was really lucky and i knew my load. lucky mor than anything, no wind or mirage...
I really want a 30-378 in a sako, that would be neat, or a McMillian 50 cal rifle, that would be cool
Brandon.....
lucky to kill vermin at 600 yd, longest shot on momma ground squirrel, used laser rangefinder it was 590 to be exact, I was really lucky and i knew my load. lucky mor than anything, no wind or mirage...
I really want a 30-378 in a sako, that would be neat, or a McMillian 50 cal rifle, that would be cool
Brandon.....
I have a Friend that has enough $ to shoot his . 50BMG a couple of times a year. I have seen him shoot 4" groups at 3250yrds out by Taft on BLM Land. The Standard Mil . 50BMG Rd goes for $1. 50 each, The Hand Loaded ones go for More!
I have Remington Sendero . 300 Winmag In Stainless With a Springfield 4x14 mildot retical scope that I have shot 3" groups at 1000yrds with @65degrees F. At 500yrds , The . 300 winmag will penatrate 2" plate steel.
But My Favorate Rifles are my two Now Legal Springfield M1A1'sin 7. 62X51 Nato(. 308). I love-um!
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I have for Each M1A1, 7 20rd springfield box Mag's for them. I have one set up for sniping, And one set up for scouting, Both M1A1's came with the loaded offer from springfield about 2 yrs ago.
I have had to dimantle both of my Colt HBAR Flattop AR15's and send the recievers to a friend in Wyoming because of the Roos/Roberti amendment.
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. I have to get out of Kommiefornia.#ad
Its,funny, The . 50BMG is Legal for sale in Kommiefornia, But the AR15 that is chambered for the measly . 223 is not!, Just because it has a Pistol Grip!#ad
Doug.
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I have Remington Sendero . 300 Winmag In Stainless With a Springfield 4x14 mildot retical scope that I have shot 3" groups at 1000yrds with @65degrees F. At 500yrds , The . 300 winmag will penatrate 2" plate steel.
But My Favorate Rifles are my two Now Legal Springfield M1A1'sin 7. 62X51 Nato(. 308). I love-um!
#adI have for Each M1A1, 7 20rd springfield box Mag's for them. I have one set up for sniping, And one set up for scouting, Both M1A1's came with the loaded offer from springfield about 2 yrs ago.
I have had to dimantle both of my Colt HBAR Flattop AR15's and send the recievers to a friend in Wyoming because of the Roos/Roberti amendment.
#ad. I have to get out of Kommiefornia.
#adIts,funny, The . 50BMG is Legal for sale in Kommiefornia, But the AR15 that is chambered for the measly . 223 is not!, Just because it has a Pistol Grip!
#adDoug.
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dieselram, been there done that on the stupid laws.
As far as stupid laws, I think were only rivaled by Cal. , and possibly Mass.#ad
As far as stupid laws, I think were only rivaled by Cal. , and possibly Mass.
#adOriginally posted by illflem:
Chad,I know it not your fault,but what's the deal with having rules about what kind of gun you can shoot someone with. Does the 50 cal. make too much of a mess or something?
Geneva Convention, I think... 30cal and below for people, bigger is for equipment...
except for "sniper work", a kill is not always the best strategy. Sure, you aim "center mass", but if you wing the guy, it's OK... . takes 2 guys out of the fight (one injured, one for first aid!). A kill removes only one. On top of all that, if he happens to be in a half-civilized army, you give him the "million dollar wound" and he goes home to the wife n kids... . win-win
Back to the original question... a . 30cal hole in your arm or leg might me fixable
. the . 50 will remove it entirely#ad
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All sorts of rules. Most are good, if everyone plays by them.
Only NATO rounds allowed to be shot at people. No modified weapons or rounds. Weapons and rounds are designed to kill, any modification is taboo.
Do not shoot at any person or eqpt with a red cross. No shooting at hospitals or places where the enemy is being treated.
You can shoot at a plane, but if the pilots eject, you can not shoot them until they hit the ground. Regular paratroopers are fare game from the time they jump.
No destroying places of worship, historical significance, civilian populated areas etc.
All POW's are required 1 meal a day. They are required to be inspected by NATO representatives and Red Cross people as well. They are required to send 1 leeter a month as well I think.
Snipers, spies and "rebels" all play by their own rules and usualy die by those rules as well.
Strange, but true. The M16 in the right hands is a very accurate weapon. In my prime at boot camp I set a range record with a perfect 250 pts. The farthest I shot was 500 meters away. I put every round within an inch of the original center shot with no scopes, all open sites. Later I got to goto a week long Scout/Sniper class. I thought I was good until I went to that. There were a few guys who could take an M16 and put a round in a 6 inch target from 800 meters away.
Springfield loaded you say Dieselram? COOL. I just picked myself up a new 1911 Loaded Springfield. They make great weapons. If any of you are ever interested in going to a top rate shooting school, I highly recomend "Gunsite" http://www.gunsite.com/
It is a top notch school with some of the best teachersaround. People from the old lady down the road, to Royal body gaurds and recon members also. They teach the best.
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Only NATO rounds allowed to be shot at people. No modified weapons or rounds. Weapons and rounds are designed to kill, any modification is taboo.
Do not shoot at any person or eqpt with a red cross. No shooting at hospitals or places where the enemy is being treated.
You can shoot at a plane, but if the pilots eject, you can not shoot them until they hit the ground. Regular paratroopers are fare game from the time they jump.
No destroying places of worship, historical significance, civilian populated areas etc.
All POW's are required 1 meal a day. They are required to be inspected by NATO representatives and Red Cross people as well. They are required to send 1 leeter a month as well I think.
Snipers, spies and "rebels" all play by their own rules and usualy die by those rules as well.
Strange, but true. The M16 in the right hands is a very accurate weapon. In my prime at boot camp I set a range record with a perfect 250 pts. The farthest I shot was 500 meters away. I put every round within an inch of the original center shot with no scopes, all open sites. Later I got to goto a week long Scout/Sniper class. I thought I was good until I went to that. There were a few guys who could take an M16 and put a round in a 6 inch target from 800 meters away.
Springfield loaded you say Dieselram? COOL. I just picked myself up a new 1911 Loaded Springfield. They make great weapons. If any of you are ever interested in going to a top rate shooting school, I highly recomend "Gunsite" http://www.gunsite.com/
It is a top notch school with some of the best teachersaround. People from the old lady down the road, to Royal body gaurds and recon members also. They teach the best.
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2000 2500 Red Sport quad cab, 4x4, K&N, DDI's, straight piped, boost, pyro and fuel pressure gages, Hot Power Edge, mean looking set of 33. 5" tires, Snap On diamond tool box, Marine Corps window sticker, Semper Fi!
1972 340 Cuda'. Original tripple Black, 340 car w/air. Good clean car, super stock springs, Weld Prostars, shaker hood, strong 340 with a 727/4000 stahl, 4. 56... . Bombs away!
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