longest lasting 285/75/16's?

[Rockcrawler]

I've run a search and my head is spinning--



This is the size tire I want to run on my mildly warmed 2001 (see sig). I've had, since new, some BFG AT 275/70/16's for 28k, some dunlop Rover 285/75/16 which were on track for about the same mileage before my wife tookout a sidewall on a large steel immovable object. now I've got Dunlop AT, 285's, 60k warranty, I'll be shocked if they make 25K. The stock Michelins were removed at less than 500 miles.



I do try to ease into the go peddle, not sure if the LSD cooks them from scrubbing or if it's from hauling at 4500- 5000 lbs axle weight- the rears definately cook much faster. I rotate at 6k.



For apples and apples I'd prefer feedback from only the SWR crowd. What tires, in this size,should I get for max mileage and what warranty do they have? I don't mind highway type tread as I get around just fine with my 4wd and i've got my Jeep when i want to wheel.



I suppose if my local dealer want to keep prorating these, they are working OK. Someone mention some PEP BOYS deals in this size for $90 and a 50K warranty. I don't mind spending the bucks IF I get the mileage to go with it. Thanks for the input!

 

[LSMITH]

I changed the 285/75/16 BFG A/T KO's on mine last time at 50K miles, and they had another 10K or so left in them if the snow was not getting deep. When they start to get thin the width makes slushy roads a real PITA. They are spendy upfront, but for that kind of life I think they are really pretty cost effective. Hope this helps.

 

[MikeR]

BFG all the way! I also have a "warmed over" 2500 4x4 and I've had my BFG 285/75/16 AT KO's on for 60k miles and they'll easily make to 75k. I am not kind to my tires either. They have lots and lots of burnouts, a couple of track runs, dyno runs and I go about 20k miles before I rotate my tires. They wear very nicely, I'll be buying another set whenever these finally wear out.



The other thing to keep in mind is the ride of the tire, which the BFG AT has a great smooth and stable ride. A fellow member had BFG's then replaced them with some other brand same size tire, and his ride went out the window. The other brand was easier to follow any slight rut in the road and the sidewalls were obviously softer giving the truck alot more sway in curves.



-Mike

 

[Rockcrawler]

Thanks for your input guys. I'm curious about your success though. My first set was the 275/70/16 BFG AT KO's which I only got 28K out of. The truck had 400 miles when they went on, alignment verified at 28k as having a slight toe adjustment and that was it.



do you think the compond is different between tire sizes? Or maybe my set was from a bad lot? The tires performed well, but are pricey and have no warranty- therefore I'd be real hesitant to run them again. My buddy runs the 285's on his chevy 7. 4 gasser and gets about 30k too.

 

[TBarrett]

FYI - my tires

Same truck but auto. Avon SXT A/T's from les schwab 285/75/r/16. I have aprox. 12000 on and run 65psi and 40psi, front to rear. Balance and rotate for an tire is most inportant and I do every 4000 miles. Tread life looks great and even, the ride is never smooth. Is not a tire for nasty rock or mud off roading which I dont do anyway. I think I remember 40 to 50 thou warrenty, balance, rotation, road hazard and flat repair are all included. They also make a M/T. I have run the BFG A/T's and the worse tires I have ever had. To top it off the dealer will not cover even to see if they are bad or anything. -Not Les schwab-, they are a great shop. I am running after market 16x8 -4"to4" offset which put about 1 1/4" of tire out of the fender wider. Love the ride, even over the stock 265 which came off at 1700 miles. Tire pressure is very important for long life! My 2-cents.

 

[PRout]

60k so far still look ok.



Rotate every 20k miles. Cross fronts put on back, backs go straight up.



Re balance at 40.



Pressure empty, 56 front, 48 rear.

Pressure towing, 60f, 60r.



Can probably go another 5-10k.

 

[LSMITH]

Rockcrawler, the wider the tire the longer it will last assuming the compound is the same. More surface to spread the wear.

I probably should not admit this, but I got 50K out of mine with a whopping 1 rotation!! They were never rebalanced and generally neglected. I run 60PSI front and 50PSI rear all the time, if the bed will be loaded heavy I bump the rears to 65PSI and let them down as soon as the load is off. I run about 70% highway miles.



And they make that prettiest white smoke you have ever seen

 

[John]

I agree with MikeR! In fact, I also know who you were referring to Mike.



I have had my 285/75R16D All-Terrain T/A tires on my Ram for over 53k now. Although I started out rotating them semi-religiously, I slacked off a bit, ok, quite a bit Anyway, it looks as though they could go another 5k but I'm getting ready to replace them pretty soon however, not as soon if my '98. 5 OE injection pump grenades after finally installing my Edge Comp.



BTW, my All-Terrains were among the last of the pre-KOs.



Also, I may go to 295s this time.

 

[John]

Originally posted by Rockcrawler

My first set was the 275/70/16 BFG AT KO's which I only got 28K out of. The tires performed well, but are pricey and have no warranty- therefore I'd be real hesitant to run them again. My buddy runs the 285's on his chevy 7. 4 gasser and gets about 30k too.

Something doesn't sound right! I used to get between 25k and 30k with BFG Mud-Terrain tires from all of them including the little 27 8. 50 14s to the 35 12. 50 15s and several sizes in between. However, this was with the Mud-Terrains! As this is only my very first set of All-Terrains, I have talked to many, many different Rammers with CTDs and all of them have told me they received at least 50k per set of All-Terrains... one even told me he eeked out 70k on a set. To be fair though, the 70k figure came from a Ford PSD guy I met while fueling. Take that for what its worth... I personally believe him. I figure if I can obtain 50k+ out of mine the way I treat them, then someone who religiously rotates them and drives easier, should be able to obtain that figure.



BTW, I knew there was no mileage warranty before I purchased any of my BFGs over the last twenty plus years... hasn't influenced my decision one bit!



Warranty

 

[Tilesetter Too]

I dont know about the rest but stay the H@ll away from Hercules Terra Tracs. I'm on my secound set and I'll be lucky to get 15K out of them. The first set got large humps in them (3) the fourth one has survived for a total of 20K. I tried rotating and balancing but they are real garbage.

 

[baccoman]

Tires

Well I might be alone on this one, but I had a set of 285 75 r 16 Goodyear ATS's and really liked them. Main reason is than they dont pick up as much gravel as I found the BFG's too and they look good also! I now run 315 70 r 16 on my truck and really like this tire if you mainly keep your truck on the road.

 

[Ben_Stadelman]

Rockcrawler,



check out http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/



you can download a .pdf file showing the stats on the tires in question.



I notice some differences between the All-Terrain T/A KO 275/70/16 and 285/75/16:



Service Description (tread wear I think higher number is longer wear)

(275/70) 119

(285/75) 122



Max Load Single (lbs @ psi)

(275/70) 3000 @ 65

(285/75) 3305 @ 65



Rev/Mile @ 45 mph

(275/70) 665

(285/75) 632



Each of these leads me to believe that the 285/75s would last longer.