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Hey Eric I got an idea!



I live in Utah and I'm going to get a side by side also.



How about you get one and I'll get the other And we'll switch off every couple months then let the ole' folks decide wich one they want and I'll hang with the one that's left- I too only ride trails.



Where in Utah can I see a Artic Cat?



ps. I also heard great reviews of the Rhino 450.



The reason I'm getting one is to put snow tracks on and use it with my snowmobiles to haul and tow sleds around for the kids - not to mention our snow dog in the bed would be cool. I know it will be slooow in the snow compared to the 800cc Summits but for hauling kids around and up the hill to sled down would be just the ticket!



What do ya say?!



dj
 
Cumns-pwr said:
LMAO, "yamahas are bulletproof"... . their utility quads and rino just SUCK! get the arctic cat. more ground clearance, made in USA, all around better machine. ;)

Cumns-pwr must be an Arctic Cat rep, I’ve never heard anyone else run something down so bad to make something else look so good. :D A good friend owns an AC dealership close to me. He easily has 2 AC’s in his shop to 1 Yamaha in our shop. Considering how many more Yamahas there are out there compared to AC’s those numbers are scary. As far as where they’re made, the Rhino is as “made in USA” as any AC.







pwerwagn said:
kawasaki is suzuki. (not all the same, but many are... . )

Kawasaki and Suzuki entered a technology “sharing” agreement in 2003. It ends in 2006. They basically allowed each other to market some models under the other’s name. They share a lot of the small kid’s bikes and ATV’s, the LT-Z400/KFX400, the Mules/QUV, and a few others. They are not owned by each other or merged. It’s sort of like the Ford/Cummins thing. :rolleyes:







As far as ground clearance goes, check this out. Grizzly 660 with a Gorilla 6” lift and 30” Mud Lites for around 16” of ground clearance. :eek:
 
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I have driven all 3 the Rhino a friend has, the Ranger my father inlaw has had for 2 years now and I drove a Prowler here a while back. My pick is the Prowler with out a doubt. Nice smooth ride and very stable without being too wide. front and rear 2" recievers, good 26" tires on 14" wheels, nice storage area under the hood front locker that is not speed limited, and a very nice guage package. It also has great power with a lot of torque and great engine braking. The 650 Cat engine has been around for several years. Cat designed the 454 Cat engine and had Suzuki build it for them. This is the same 400 water cooled engine used in some of the earlier Cats and now used in the Suzuki Vinson and 500 Cats. The 650 has an increased bore and stroke but basically the same engine. Very reliable with a 3 year warranty if ya need it.

The Rhino is nice and sporty narrow for the trails with ample power and a great transmission. The Rhino will have issues with axles breaking and over heating but otherwise seems to be reliable. While not near as roomy as the Prowler and louder.

The Ranger is well, kind of the outcast. Loud, needs to rev up before taking off, not nice and smooth like the other 2 at all. Under the seat is open so you get a lot of dust and noise coming up through the engine compartment. Big, heavy but has a bigger bed.



I would choose the Prowler for my needs. Don't be afraid of the Cats they are a very well built machine with a great company behind them. I had a 500 01 Cat I had nearly 1000 trouble free miles on it they called me up and recalled my quad and gave me a brand new one with a new warranty. I never even had any trouble with it. My first Cat 98 500 had 4700 miles on it when I got rid of it. A few minor things mainly caused by me all covered under the warranty. Somehow picked up a 03 660 Grizzly in there and broke 8 axles in it, it would vapor lock, over heat. I tried everything from jethot on the pipe, venting the side pannels, jetting all on my own dime to no avail. Yamaha kept saying there was no problem.

I know they aren't all like my Grizzly I guess I got a lemon. I am riding a Prairie 700 now and it is a rock solid rocket. I am not brand loyal when it comes to quads. But I do know that not everyone likes the same thing. Go try them all out and get whichever one you like best.
 
As far as ground clearance goes, check this out. Grizzly 660 with a Gorilla 6” lift and 30” Mud Lites for around 16” of ground clearance. :eek:[/QUOTE]





Yeah it's looks neat but those weak factory cv's won't last long at all. I have seen many a lifted 4-wheeler snap those things like twigs.
 
The gorilla lift comes with better CV's but yeah, those are only for mud



I am putting off the Sde by side purchase for next year... . (finances) to 07 so I will see what comes out then.



DJ, Thats an interresting Idea, If you get one, can I borrow it to try?



Eric
 
PHellums said:
Yeah it's looks neat but those weak factory cv's won't last long at all. I have seen many a lifted 4-wheeler snap those things like twigs.



Those are not the factory CV's. The lift kit is complete with new drive axles and control arms.



Scott
 
Well, any results to report yet, Eric?

Inquiring minds want to know.



Thinking about one or the other myself. In my experience:

Rhino- an all terrain sports car. Great seats, handling, power, speed (with easy mods). Lacks low enough gears for serious mudding.

Ranger- great for hauling, low range turns any tire, seats 3 and easy in & out bench seat. But drives like a bus.



I'm wondering how the Prowler compares.

Gary
 
Rudolph the Red-Nosed Ranger

Polaris Ranger, an outcast? Please, say it ain’t so! Now I can’t stop imagining all the UTVs going out to play in the fields while their owners are sleeping—all except for poor Rudolph the Red-Nosed Ranger. :)



All fun and reindeer games aside though, I own a 2005 6x6, so at the risk of venturing off-topic, I’ll relate only the experience I’ve had with the Ranger 6x6 I have (vs. experiences with other UTVs I’ve only dreamt of using to chauffeur the Swedish Bikini Team to and from the beach—many trips, hard work. But I digress).



And here’s the most valuable advice of all—no matter which UTV you buy, NEVER FORGET to keep your thumbs outside of the steering wheel or it just might break them if you hit a rock/stump the wrong way. (Hmmmm—perhaps we could use this on Club G’itmo detainees).



Ranger 6x6 Strengths: great payload and towing capacity, seats at least 3, easy in-and out. I can take it anywhere our big ATV’s can go and then some (to the stunned amazement of everyone who’s ridden in it). Tough ATV hill climbs feel tame with the 6x6’s long wheelbase. Very smooth ride over rough terrain— front 4 wheels are independent, 2 rear are swing arm (there’s no collapse of rear suspension when towing—receiver is solid with rear axle). On the dash toggle from 4-wheel to 6-wheel drive, and all 6 wheels get power. No shifting—CV transmission keeps the 500cc engine in the power band with surprisingly good performance. Good clearance and full-length skid plate that I’ve tested running over big Arizona rocks, tree stumps, and small animals. An 8. 5 gallon fuel tank provides excellent range. Top it off with a huge selection of accessories for vehicle and cargo, and a big dump bed/tailgate that can hold up to 1,250 pounds of dirty diapers (or any other material that’s better dumped than shoveled). Six wheels look cool.



Ranger 6x6 Weaknesses: Can’t shift from low-range (up to 20 MPH) to high-range (up to 40 MPH) while moving. Extended use of High Range will probably mean belt replacement more often, but I rarely use it, and belt replacement is fairly easy in any event (yup—I abused one trying to pull a pesky rock out of a trail—found out that it was much larger than I thought when I used my ~4,000 pound diesel tractor to pull it out with relative ease—oops—it was a 3 foot boulder). Long wheelbase/6 wheels make for a wide turning radius. Wide stance on tight ATV trails can be squeeze. Stock bash plate up front seems a bit too light—I mounted a steel one with a winch mount/front receiver. Not for crossing deep water much higher than the floorboards, since the big tires start to float (!) and loose traction. In the event of a roll-over (which is pretty unlikely given length/width and CG—the thing is quite stable), the roll bar will deform and need replacement. And there’s just no good place to mount a heavy machine gun or an anti-tank weapon (oh, well).



I use the Ranger 6x6 for hauling equipment, hay, logs, trailers loaded with brush, and for giving guests harrowing rides around our little ranch (the kids can’t get enough). There seems to be no end to their usefulness—a terrific toy and a perfect compliment to our tractor for ranch work. The engine is under the seat (like many UTVs). Dust coming up from under the seat is usually a dietary issue: Arizona dust comes in right over the hood the old-fashioned way. :)



Sadly, no word yet on when we’ll be able to see how well it would work to chauffeur the Swedish Bikini Team to and from the beach. (Same old problem here in Arizona—lots of beach, no ocean. ) :{





Sometimes the Ranger seats 4 :)
 
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The decision has been put off til next year (finances) but I am leanin' toward the Rhino mainly because of the narrower stance and the multitude of accessories available... They even have a Radio and speakers for gods sake!... .
 
I had a artic for two years and beat it to death... I think price would have to be a huge consideration because all of them are pretty close in all other areas...
 
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